Memes like this are beyond dumb because different ideologies could share similar concepts. The idea of people owning their workplace is not exclusive to socialism. Capitalism is founded on the same idea, just a different interpretation.
More than that, we’re capable of ignoring the personal attacks and push the point further. Capitalism is sociopolitical so dismissing comparisons to other political arrangements is silly
Capitalism is not sociopolitical, it’s an economic system. You don’t even have a point to push because you clearly don’t even understand what capitalism is, let alone make valid comparisons for it. Comparing capitalism to monarchy is like comparing luggage to airplanes, it’s just not the same thing.
You pointed out how capitalism depends on private property, that is a social relationship that is backed by political power to enforce said property rights. You can try to redefine economics but you can’t escape observed reality. But please continue to insist I don’t know what i am talking about, it truly adds value to the debate. You should actually require payment before making such statements
You keep making one ignorant statement after another while doubling down on being a smug pseudointellectual. All economic systems are backed by their government, and all governments have a monopoly on violence to maintain order. That’s not a revelation of anything but your ignorance. All societies in history with a socialist system have the same exact dynamic. This doesn’t change the fact that monarchy and capitalism aren’t comparable because they’re fundamentally different concepts. If you’re going to double down again on such a painfully false notion, then this conversation is not worth continuing.
No, you’re still wrong. There is not single person who made or defined capitalism. It’s a concept that evolved through through the contributions of multiple philosophers and economists in different times. Kind of like the internet. It’s not like Marxism where it has specific inventors that you can point to.
Memes like this are beyond dumb because different ideologies could share similar concepts. The idea of people owning their workplace is not exclusive to socialism. Capitalism is founded on the same idea, just a different interpretation.
Do you even know what Capitalism means?
Do you? Capitalism is quite literally the idea that private individuals can own and control the means of production.
So not the same as all the workers owning the factory…just one guy maybe.
No every business is a factory or a corporation, most businesses aren’t.
Most businesses have atleast one employee who has no ownership stake in the company
And? You understand that socialism is antithetical to the concept of ownership, right? Of course you don’t. You don’t even understand what it is.
No, socialism is antithetical to the concept of non worker ownership.
The concept of ownership? Do you think socialistes aren’t allowed to own, say, the clothes they wear?
Go a step further and argue Monarchies are really capitalism as well because the king is a private individual owning the means of production.
Monarchy is a system of government. Are people on this site allergic to basic information?
More than that, we’re capable of ignoring the personal attacks and push the point further. Capitalism is sociopolitical so dismissing comparisons to other political arrangements is silly
Capitalism is not sociopolitical, it’s an economic system. You don’t even have a point to push because you clearly don’t even understand what capitalism is, let alone make valid comparisons for it. Comparing capitalism to monarchy is like comparing luggage to airplanes, it’s just not the same thing.
You pointed out how capitalism depends on private property, that is a social relationship that is backed by political power to enforce said property rights. You can try to redefine economics but you can’t escape observed reality. But please continue to insist I don’t know what i am talking about, it truly adds value to the debate. You should actually require payment before making such statements
You keep making one ignorant statement after another while doubling down on being a smug pseudointellectual. All economic systems are backed by their government, and all governments have a monopoly on violence to maintain order. That’s not a revelation of anything but your ignorance. All societies in history with a socialist system have the same exact dynamic. This doesn’t change the fact that monarchy and capitalism aren’t comparable because they’re fundamentally different concepts. If you’re going to double down again on such a painfully false notion, then this conversation is not worth continuing.
No. Marx, who defined Capitalism was clear that it was a state of the world where most wealth was controlled by a select few.
Marx didn’t define capitalism moron
Fair. It was defined by a French socialist apparently. Still, capitalism was defined by the left.
No, you’re still wrong. There is not single person who made or defined capitalism. It’s a concept that evolved through through the contributions of multiple philosophers and economists in different times. Kind of like the internet. It’s not like Marxism where it has specific inventors that you can point to.
the word “people” is doing some atlas level heavy lifting here lmfao
Care to explain?