• Murse@slrpnk.net
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    Fortunately voting isn’t mutually exclusive to any other flavor of activism. So, unironically: yes, please do vote, as often and informed as you’re able to.

    Light up some billionaire’s warehouse on the way home if you want, but voting is easier and safer than pretty much any offer method of driving some rapid reform, so start with voting, and take whatever other action you feel still needs to take place.

    Lots of hate on voting lately… Why? Use every tool we’ve got.

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      8 days ago

      I mostly agree. I see nothing wrong with voting, though I understand the folks who didn’t vote in the last presidential election. I don’t think voting matters all that much outside of local elections but do what you will. It’s getting a lot of hate rn because it has felt very ineffective at preventing fascism and people are seeking alternatives.

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        8 days ago

        What we need is labor movement power like work stoppages, but far more organizing is needed before we can do that effectively

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        8 days ago

        I share that frustration, but discouraging voters from showing up isn’t going to help anything: focus your anger at the actual fascists, not the ballot box.

        Actually achieving some meaningful reform is a complex project that requires every tool in the box. If you run into a stripped screw, don’t get mad at the screwdriver for not working, but instead reach for your other tools to use alongside the driver. Might need to grab it with a vicegrip (like a general strike) or whack it with a hammer (like a molotov cocktail), but don’t just discard the screwdriver - the screws aren’t all stripped, and the project is a lot bigger than just the one striped screw. If the next screw is also stripped, by all means light up another, uh, hammer… but the screwdriver is the easiest and most effective option for the parts of the project that aren’t already fubar.

        So… advocating for alternatives when they’re called for: absolutely necessary! Throwing the screwdriver away: unnecessary and critical error.

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      8 days ago

      Unfortunately voting requires electoralist action, which takes a lot of effort and motivation from those doing it (literally year-long amount of man-hours) which absolutely is mutually exclusive with actually useful things

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      Problem is in a lot of states voting does jack shit unless you’re on the side of the party the majority of your state votes for. In 2024, 70% of the registered voters voted and the conservatives won by a massive margin. Protests happen every once in a while here, but if you say anything at these to encourage other forms of political movement and you’re quickly shut off cause they’re afraid you’ll hurt the movement.