• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    9 days ago

    You think taxing the rich, removing money from politics, and giving everyone food and healthcare is conservative?

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      9 days ago

      Those are progressive ideals, not neo-liberal ones, and neo-liberals are currently the ones controlling the Democratic party unfortunately.

      That’s not to say that neo-liberals and conservatives/the MAGA party are the same, or that the Democratic party and the Republican party are the same, but it’s important to recognize that neo-liberals explicitly do not want to tax the rich, remove money from politics, or give everyone food.

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      9 days ago

      The “both sides are same duh” idiots still can’t connect these dots

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        9 days ago

        Democrats don’t want those. At least at the leadership level. Their voters do, but the leaders don’t care.

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      9 days ago

      They should be core conservative policies on account of them being the cheapest options in the long run.

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        conservatives vote for small government, big business. and by small government they mean gutting social programs, and giving money to billionaires.

        these social programs were to fix problems with huge expenses over the long run more so then some bleeding heart reasons.

        they literally save a dime now to have you pay a dollar later.

        conservatives are so short sighted they can’t see their own d$(&

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          It means maintaining constants through change. So it can be applied way more broadly, actually. The ‘old ways’ or ‘traditional’ ways are agnostic to whether those ways are progressive or not.

          ‘Progressive conservatism’ exists. Many consider the form (or a prominent one) that it takes to be ‘neoliberalism’. Neoliberalism isn’t specifically used as a defined term political science.

          So these terms have a whole lot of room tp be used and misused as needed.