• Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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      3 days ago

      From your first link:

      Among many other potential reasons, cultural genocide may be committed for religious motives (e.g., iconoclasm which is based on aniconism); as part of a campaign of ethnic cleansing

      This is covered by “intent to destroy (…) ethnical (…) group”.

      From your second link:

      The final prohibited act is the only prohibited act that does not lead to physical or biological destruction, but rather to the destruction of the group as a cultural and social unit

      There will always be political legalese in play, when imperialist powers want to commit genocide, and so they’ll cling to the fact that “cultural genocide” is not specifically mentioned. But, in the case of Uyghurs, it’s a very clear-cut case of both ethnic cleansing and physical genocide (through forced sterilisation and displacement of children).

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          2 days ago

          I’m sorry, could you re-write that? I’m having trouble understanding what you meant.

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            They’re talking about the cultural genocide of the Sami people in Norway and Sweden. Bet you didn’t hear about that in state sponsored Western propaganda, huh?

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              OK, now I get it.

              Of course I heard about it. The “state sponsored Western propaganda” also very specifically mentioned that phrenology studies were shut down only in the 70s in Sweden, in case that would be your further attempt at a “gotcha”.

              Why would you think that it’s some sort of secret?

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                My point is that whining about that while civilians are being chemically eradicated in lebannon is dishonest as fuck,.

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                  1. If that’s your point, why did you write about the Sami people?
                  2. Source on “chemical eradication” in Lebanon, please. I searched for it but couldn’t find anything.
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        Here is the human rights report from the United Nations on Xinjiang. It talks of human rights abuses (which there are), but it doesn’t use the word genocide, because it doesn’t meet any definition of genocide, especially not the ones recognized by the UN.

        The Western move to label it genocide before any actual proof is just atrocity propaganda to divert people’s attention towards China, rather than the West’s own crimes against humanity.

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          Funny that you say it’s to distract from the west’s crimes against humanity, since the report literally uses those exact words to describe what China is doing to the uyghurs, but yes you are correct it doesn’t say it’s a genocide.

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            I’m sure the West is very good at recognizing crimes against humanity, given their vast experience at committing them. If only they used the same due diligence when dealing with their own past (and in some cases present).