I think I actually believe him when he says its soul-sucking. He’s obviously missing a lot of perspective on what he calls ‘real jobs’, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t an emotional toll from what amounts to being a clown whose paycheck is derived from the whims of literally faceless masses
I agree. The algorithm wants you constantly putting out annoying shit to keep their audience hooked. At first you are creative! Monetizing your hobby! Soon you have a hole on your resume, a demanding schedule, a soulless algo, a capricious audience you must grow… Yeah I think I’d take corporate life over being a streamer or whatever.
Its even eaten traditional creative careers. Writers and artists must be online content creators above all else.
“look the guy who spends all day every day saying things said a cringe thing once! stop listening to him about israel and billionaires!”
there’s a huge hasan smear campaign by corpo “democrats” right now, because obviously he’s the real danger for some reason and not the cheeto rapist in power.
when people are calling democrats controlled opposition, this is what they mean.
remember hasan’s dog? don’t think about the entrenched democrats actively enabling the fascist takeover. don’t think about their support for funding israel’s genocide of gaza. what if his dog possibly potentially had a shock collar because the way it moved once! keep hasan on the defensive so he isn’t talking about israel or billionaires!
etc.
i definitely am not the biggest hasan fan, but i find myself defending him regularly from absolute bullshit.
if there’s was ever a time to be picky about hasan’s choice of emotionally biased statements on non-issues, this is really not it.
If my body wasn’t so busted I would prefer general labor. Over almost any desk job. I hate it. I don’t have a chat section. At least with general labor i felt like i actually did something of worth at the end of the day.
I do think the streamer may have a point, but only in a bullshit jobs way. A job that actually improves the world has a sense of satisfaction that a job that’s either harmful or pointless lacks, and the latter does some damage to the psyche
That said, he could you know, change careers
This quote is out of context. He explained that streaming itself isn’t what is hard, it’s having everything he says taken out of context, the endless death threats, and the constant character assassinations. Also, he was working 60-70 hour weeks.
But then he might chip his manicure
He could probably get a desk job career that feels meaningful
I find it hard to think of any job that would feel meaningful, under capitalism–which is the only system I have experience with. Certainly no job I’ve ever had has felt so. Sure, I could lie to myself that looking at the work from a narrow view, from a certain angle, and in the right light, potential meaning beyond just making the rich richer, and eking out an existence for myself could be occasionally glimpsed, but that was always an obvious lie.
Mine feels good, provide electricity to thousands.
Have you considered plumbing? Civil engineering? Becoming a physician or nurse? Installing solar panels? Even a fair amount of manufacturing does something that the world is better off for having it, and within that, supportive work is still meaningful because it enables that good to happen.
Yes, the distribution of resources and organization of labor are alienating in our society, but there’s work that improves the world and there’s satisfaction in doing it.
You can certainly frame your meaningless job in a meaningful way.
I am specialized in reducing waste and carbon emissions.
How do I do it? I reduce excess inventories and implement shipping routes that make sense (using less expensive and less wasteful means of transportation wherever possible).
Healthcare was meaningful until they went corporate model now it sucks (admin/IT side)
You say chip, what’s up?
i challenge you to suffer his stupid fucking chat for a day… a lot of people would prefer back breaking labor.
Nah he’s right. I’m in a friend circle that includes a lot of content creators and the burnout is so palpable, they can’t even take real holidays because if they do the algorithm fucks them over. Then the guy in the group who’s effectively a Janitor is the happiest and well adjusted and he loves his job.
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The person in OP’s picture could retire today and never work again. So clearly it’s not “sucking out his soul” since it’s entirely voluntary.
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He’s also talking specifically about streaming which is the absolute lowest common denominator of online content. Like people just flip on OBS and record themselves playing games or eating or reacting to other content, literally just things they would be doing anyways even if they weren’t recording. No one is owed the ability to make money streaming and it’s hard to find a “real job” that provides less value to society than streaming.
- The person in OP’s picture could retire today and never work again. So clearly it’s not “sucking out his soul” since it’s entirely voluntary.
I mean, debatable, hassas is like early 30s and if we make the big big assumption he has $1m in actual savings, then he would have to live for another 50 years just to make it into his 80s which would come out to about $20k/year not considering investments or inflation or anything. So not realistically enough to retire on.
Even if we assume he can retire to a life of luxury, does it being voluntary mean it can’t be a soul sucking? Like my country has a good benefits program and I’m disabled, so I could live the rest of my life on benefits if I wanted to, does that mean I can’t complain about my job and that it can’t be soul destroying?
The effort of actual streaming is only part of the job and it’s still tough to engage with people and be entertaining for hours and hours every day. Like have you not been in a social situation where you have to put on airs? It’s exhausting.
hassas is like early 30s and if we make the big big assumption he has $1m in actual savings
Bro please Hasan was in the top 5 most hours watched on Twitch last year. Twitch leaks from 2021 (5 years ago when he was “smaller”) show he made $3 million just from ads, not even counting any other sponsorships or deals he had.
And he’s got you out here thinking that he “might, just maybe, if we really stretch belief” have $1 million total net worth. It would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.
This is exactly why streaming is so disgusting. You’re carrying water for a guy who is a multi multi millionaire because you have a parasocial relationship with him and think he’s your friend.
AFAIK he doesn’t run AD’s. Watching him for a year now. I’ve never seen any sponsored content. Maybe he gets money from the politicians he interviews on stream but I doubt it. He only invites those who he has a serious interest in growing their platform. He doesn’t seem to sell out. He regularly mentions his work is solely sponsored by his viewers. I don’t claim that he isn’t a multi millionaire but I don’t see how this invalidates his positions or work.
Okay, firstly I need you to understand I have not watched a single second of a Hassan stream and basically everything I know about him I have learned involuntarily. So your personal attacks about my “parasocial relationship” are entirely unfounded.
But again as I said. Even if he does have enough to retire in luxury why does that mean his job can’t be would destroying? Hassan especially receives an enormous amount of death threats, hate and harassment and streaming in general is very draining.
It’s surprising that more political science majors that want to make a difference to society aren’t working at an Amazon warehouse instead of streaming.
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Are any of your content creator friends trying to get other jobs?
Yeah, most of them are actually artists primarily, but getting a stable job in art is quite hard.
Best of luck to them, then.
I can absolutely see this. Viewers are expecting something new every time they check your page. If you aren’t active for a week they may stop checking.
LOL, they can’t take holidays? I can’t either, show me who can afford holidays… I haven’t been on holiday in a decade. At least they can pay their bills ffs, unlike me.
I get PTO and my job is maybe two steps above flipping burgers. I ain’t going overseas but I can deffo take a vacation. If you’re in a red state or otherwise victim to similar ratfuckery, my condolensces friend.
???
All my other friends? I’m on a very average wage and can take holidays, I have a friend’s that on like 1k/year over minimum who’s going to Japan later this year.
Scream out of touch louder. In the US (where Hasan is so its the pertinent example) federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour, thats 16,080 a year, add 1000 and you’re saying your friend can afford to pay all their bills and a trip to Japan? The state with the highest minimum wage is Washington at 17.13 hourly total annual being 35,630, add 1,000 36,630. You’re saying thats not only a livable wage in that state but one high enough to afford a trip to Japan? Your friend is putting it on a credit card or they don’t have any of the bills associated with being an adult.
Let me get this straight, you’re saying that because some people hate their jobs, nobody is allowed to say a different job sucks? Or is it that nobody is allowed to enjoy their job?
And you’re saying that because some people are struggling financially nobody else is allowed to be doing okay financially and enjoying the fruits of their labor?
Get some perspective bro. Read the room!
Yes thats exactly what I’m saying and I mean it
Dude you badly need to spend some time offline and touch some grass and talk to some new people. Go have some fun in the real world!
That line of thinking only comes from being in an echo chamber for too long
I love that no matter what I say in shitpost there is a shockingly high percentage of people who take it as genuine. This is the best place I’ve ever found to bait/troll.
Delusional
I love that no matter what I say in shitpost there is a shockingly high percentage of people who take it as genuine. This is the best place I’ve ever found to bait/troll.
Americans still don’t understand there are other countries that exist.
Boooooo you stink. We are talking about hasan and you are trying to apply whatever your country (which is undeniably a significantly smaller number of people) to all countries by making the statement you’ve made based on your sub 1% incredibly high level of privilege. Your niche example can’t apply to the other 7.5 billion at least humans.
which is undeniably a significantly smaller number of people
What if I’m actually from China?
Well china doesn’t have a national minimum wage so I have no idea what you’d be referencing when stating 1000 above minimum. Highest city minimum wage set is Beijing, its 4 USD an hour. Not sure how that would pay all your bills and afford a vacation to Japan. Japan by the way has a minimum wage of around 2 times that. So, the money would stretch significantly shorter outside of just accommodations. You’re also ignoring the rest of what I said so you continue to stink. Your stance was that anyone making “average” wage can afford international travel and vacations.
lmao??
Sup babe?
I feel he’s comparing streaming to white collar jobs, not blue collar jobs. I often refer to my white collar job as my first “real job” because it was the first job I got involving my degree. Prior to that my blue collar jobs where I worked as a “janitor” or in a deli were just part time work to get some spending money.
Ironically, or perhaps not depending on your perspective, having every statement you make over analyzed because your profession is just constantly making statements live can certainly be soul sucking. I think this post is evidence of that. You have to constantly make sure you don’t say things that can get clipped in a way that will make you look bad.
Judging by his other statements, I find it hard to believe he’s saying that hard manual labor is easy work that isn’t soul sucking.
What does the need to create divisive discourse around a popular leftist streamer serve to obscure about how you actually feel about the world?
steamers when their job is to play video games for a few hours and make 1000s of dollars 😭
Stop giving fuckheads attention. It’s the only way we can prevent further idiocracy. Attention focus matters.
Hell no
I respect and appreciate what Hasan does and the impact he has even if I myself am not a fan.
But boy, I do wish he managed to be less annoying while doing it, or that we had a better face for the movement in broad media than him.
This went from mild take to existential crisis real fast 😭
One of the main reasons we suffer is because we don’t work on ourselves.
If we did, we could lift ourselves up, then our families, and then our communities.
Yeah seems kind of whiny since he’s super successful and was probably already well-off, but on the other hand…
I’m kind of tired of hearing that my nieces and nephews have no career goals other than to be a “content creator”.
Maybe if more people were honest about what it takes and how the social media companies have started to squeeze creators then kids would aspire to get real jobs.
I’m kind of tired of hearing that my nieces and nephews have no career goals other than to be a “content creator”.
It’s completely normal for people to try to survive as artists and creatives until they’re enslaved into capitalism.
It’s whiny out of context. But imagine doing public speaking for 60 hours a week with audience members recording everything you say to try and twist it out of context. Then throw in the endless character assassinations, death threats, and the fact he covers genocides… I couldn’t do the job he does.
Maybe not, I don’t know how much he makes, there’s a lot I’d put up with if it could mean early retirement. If he’s really making 2.8m in two years then that’s a mil after taxes and there’s no reason he couldn’t retire at 40 and live a more modest lifestyle. Could be worth it.
You can help kill their dreams so fast by helping them to start a stream (with your supervision of course, moderate their chat too)
Hinting at quitting streaming?
Praise be
