cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/mop/p/829888/immigrants
An immigrant did take something tangible from me. My tonsils. I am eternally grateful for this.
Did it improve your deep throat game?
Post this on Nextdoor to see who your neighbors are.
Would be instantly taken down as politics. Next-door is not a friendly place to begin with. The only ones on it are the neighbors you don’t want to interact with anyways.
I used to work blue collar. I’m cool with immigrants coming here to work, but there’s no denying that it caused lower wages for people that are drywallers, roofers, framers, and such. Especially prevalent with roofing. A company using citizens that need to provide for their families in the US couldn’t compete against a company with 10 Mexican guys that all live in a couple apartments and send their extra money down to their families in Mexico where the money goes so much further. They’re just able and willing to work for so much less that it chokes out people with their families in this country.
proper minimum wage solves that
No it doesn’t. Something like roofing can’t be a minimum wage job, no matter what the minimum wage is. It’s a much harder job than something like a target stocker. So it would still just mean all roofing jobs would go to Mexican lobor, or your forced to work at minimum wage doing a hard job like roofing, or trying to find a job that’s less abusive to your body for the same amount of money, but there’s only so many of those jobs to go around.
Wage earnings stuff is an independent issue from foreign labor. if you want to fix wage issues minimum wage increases is a futile effort that will only cause inflation and devalue anyone’s savings or retirement. If you want to fix the minimum wage issue you’re trying to fix it from the wrong end. You need to create a maximum wage. Tax wealth, tax the loopholes used to avoid paying tax on that wealth, and tax a higher and higher rate the more you earn. if the top earners were prevented from exponentially increasing their wealth their wouldn’t be a need to constantly try to increase the minimum wage with futile results. Right now the more most people make just turns into the more companies will charge to increase profits and earn even more wealth. if the rich were prevented from gaining more wealth after a certain point, the wealth would spread out to competition and pay and benefits. Imagine if all these board members and ceo’s and billionaires couldn’t earn more than a couple million dollars a year before paying everything else into taxes instead of making a hundred million a year.
i am sorry, you’re right. though I’d still want to advocate for both, just in case. employ a ceiling and a floor.
TL;DR Tax the rich.
And he’s right.
excuse me but i actually do have a list of real things immigants have stolen from all of us. just one immigant in fact, his name is elon musk.
most immigrants i’ve met and hung out with and lived with, great people. my second favorite roommate ever (wife wins that one, sorry bro) was a refugee from iran. he cooked the best food and was the sweetest, kindest guy i’ve ever met. only complaint i have about him is he liked to count his tips from work right when he got home (i don’t blame him) but like it was 1AM and there were coins and i was asleep and we shared a room. we talked about it once and i bought earplugs and he waited until morning to count his tips and everything was great.
Immigrants were never “taking” jobs. The American business owners, millionaires, and billionaires were giving the jobs away. No immigrant ever forced the head of any company to replace their American employees with foreign born workers.
Same goes for any other country where this ridiculous claim is made.
replace their American employees with foreign born workers.
For half their salary
On that whole “they only take jobs we don’t want” tip: I think it’s 90% true. Fruit picking? You won’t see white Americans doing that work, ever, no matter what comes. It will be roboticized first.
But things do happen in that other 10%. Sometimes I think there are a bunch of Jethros sitting around who would in fact like to have a business mowing peoples’ lawns. Jethro would like this because he has the brain capacity of a vole but wants to earn money, and he knows how to push a mower. Thing is, Jethro wants to charge about 4x the going rate for lawn mowing in his area to support his child support payments and alcoholism, but he can’t because Mexican immigrants are willing to work harder for less. Instead of using his massive advantages and privileges to skill up to an appropriately paying job that they aren’t able to compete with him for, Jethro just wants the military to cleanse the immigrants from the land.
That’s the sad part: some native born Americans actually do want these jobs.
You won’t see white Americans doing that work, ever
what am i, chopped meat? wait, don’t answer that. i picked berries up in oregon when we didn’t have other farm work to do
I intended no disrespect to your work history or your whiteness!
or my chopped uppedness don’t forget that neither i am in a huff :3
those were good berries too. i gotta wait a month and a half before my berry bush is ready.
