President Trump on Wednesday said he is considering the formation of a “joint venture” with Iran to set up tolls in the Strait of Hormuz after the Trump administration and Tehran agreed to a two-week ceasefire deal.

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The president also suggested Monday that the U.S. could impose its own tolls on vessels trying to transit through the channel. Leaders in Tehran signaled last week it would install a “toll booth” system to exert a price on ships seeking safe passage through the strait.

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    This strait dictates world economy? Of course trump wants to install a toll booth there with the money going straight to him and his cronies

    All that after a war with Iran, of course

    Deluded dipshit

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    I know the man is just throwing mud at the wall to see what sticks, but the whiplash from “civilizational erasure” and “back to the Stone Ages” to “buddy-buddy halfsies on illegal tolls” is a little much.

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    This is insane. I don’t know why this hasn’t got wider news coverage.

    I were not able to find a better news article, but this news article somehow failed to mention the central fact that anybody demanding tolls, whether Iran or USA or both, is unambiguously illegal under international law. It is an international strait, and there is right of navigation for ships. Legal Eagle describes why the tolls are illegal: Trump’s Illegalist War Gets Illegaler.

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      Yeah because the law is the one thing that can stop Trump, right? Let’s stop kidding ourselves. The only thing proven to stop Trump is leverage and force. It doesn’t even take that much because he’s so stupid he can’t usually figure out ways around it.

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        The problem is that the US extorting protection money from merchant ships for passing in an otherwise free international waterway makes the US government look like a mafia state. Which it may very well be, although it tried to avoid making it this clear before.

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          It’s abundantly clear that the Trump administration is this and not an inch more than this.

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        Everybody benefits from the free trade system working - and that depends on international freedom of navigation law being respected. Also Trump voting Republicans, and Republican Congressmen, benefit.

        In a sane world, US voters would stop Trump. In their own rational self interest.

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          None of Trump’s voters are anywhere near understanding this though. They overwhelmingly vote against their own rational self interests time and time again. So a sane world is not the one we get.

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      It’s fully within the territorial waters of Iran or Oman. I’m not an international law expert but it seems that it’s a practiced convention not a legally enforceable rule.

      Besides, international law is about who has the bigger stick.

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        It’s fully within the territorial waters of Iran or Oman. I’m not an international law expert but it seems that it’s a practiced convention not a legally enforceable rule.

        The right of “innocent passage” in a country’s territorial waters is guaranteed by the UNCLOS. It’s a legally binding rule since both Iran and the USA have signed the convention.

        But both have probably also violated a dozen of international conventions since the start of the war, so that’s mostly besides the point.

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        not a legally enforceable rule.

        Anything is enforceable with enough bombs, if there is a will. Any previous US President, Democrat or Republican, would have enforced it no question.

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    The bigger irony of this is that a Trump actually doing this would further turn the world away from the US. If it was just Iran imposing the toll, over time the international community would sour on Iran for not moving past the war. This would economically benefit the US more than any direct cashflow from a toll ever would, as it would stabilize devestment from America. Now nobody will ever blame Iran for the toll, solidifying the loss in American soft power forever.

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      I don’t think it would be between the US and Iran, but rather a Trump-Iran joint venture. You know, to further compensate for his hard work.

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    He would me more successful in trying to proclaiming reality into being if he said he was considering getting a pony.

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    “Joint venture” wherein the USA saves a few trillion dollars by standing down in Iran, and Iran tolls every ship that passes.

    Art of the Deal.

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    Gosh, I wonder what Iran thinks about that idea? The article has this to say:

    Any “joint venture” was not part of Iran’s 10-point peace plan that the U.S. agreed to and the president previously called “workable.”

    And that’s it! Guess this one is still in the “concept of a plan” phase.