• Eager Eagle@lemmy.world
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    I don’t think that banning this kind of product will solve the fact that there are people with a disorder. So what’s the point? Moralism?

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      It will solve it being normalized. And F-off to the pedophile apologist bots rising in these threads saying it doesn’t so far that it’s been brought up.

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          Yes, before long there will be people basing their entire identity on wanting to be fucked by drago… Oh wait

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            Comparing raping minors as kink play and think that’s how you validate pedophiles, you’re the fucking problem.

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              Did you maybe respond to the wrong comment? I was just making a joke about a user here “dragonfucker” or smt, with pronouns drag/dragself. Idk if they’re still active, I blocked em ages ago

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          rape of minors is not kink play. You will never ever convince me otherwise. Youre manipulation tactics are sad. Go Rotate and be angry about it forever.

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            No manipulation tactics from me, just a valid equivalence of unusual sex toys

            Besides, it’s clear you’re the rotating angry bean here, buddy. I mean, look at how much time you’re spending going feral on every comment in this thread, calling everyone who’s not throwing angry “YOURE PEDO” comments a pedophile bot.

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        It’ll never be normalized because it’s fucking weird, whether that’s legal or not. And you can stop calling anyone with a different opinion a bot, it makes you sound like one.

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          It’s not weird. Its not normalizing a kink. It’s violence. It’s raping minors. Stop downplaying it. And yes, there are bots. And I frankly do not give a shit what you think of me for pointing it out. I think I’ll continue to live a perfectly happy life without your approval over à fucking comment that triggered you online into the worst hill to get distracted by and go after during a discussion about normalizing raping minors. It doesn’t compare to the disappointment I have for you. I’m sure we will both live but at least I’ll sleep better knowing my dispppintment was a bit more high value energy than ‘dur, don’t insults the bots’ shit you’re here wasting time and energy doing.

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            I saw your comments in other threads, and you don’t sound happy at all, but whatever. Have a nice life.

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          It’ll never be normalized

          Woody Allen, Sleeper, 1973, dinner party scene

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          Note: Woody Allen is Jewish. The film was released 25 years after the Holocaust.

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          Nope there is a huge amount of bots because lemmy had an engagement problem so people had the bright idea to fake it till it makes it. But then they realized faking it IS making it.

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        “that look like children” is not enforceable. Are you requiring a minimum height? A minimum number of ageing features? A certain breast size? What about cartoon/anime stylized products?

        But the core issue is that this literally won’t solve anything and it’s, therefore, a waste of time and public money.

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          Why do you think it is unenforceable? Australia already enforces a ban on these dolls and arrests anyone attempting to import them.

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            I believe they meant it wasn’t easy to consistently enforce, for the reasons they mention.

            Australia might be doing this, but it doesn’t change that it’s all arbitrary and impossible to prove in court outside of the “best judgement” call argument, which is by definition inconsistent.

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              That, and the fact they’re playing tag with people trying to sell it, which are breaking down these dolls into parts and selling them separately. And what for? In the end it’s just an object which sales ban won’t solve any real issues.

              If it was for free, I’d consider supporting it. But it has a cost, it’s subjective (to some extent), and has no tangible benefit other than making some people feel good about themselves.

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          Anime stuff is crazy. What amounts to young girls with huge tits in a lot of cases. All kinds of products like bedding or pillows feature them, and of course there’s porn of it, and as far as I can tell it doesn’t get treated any different than a niche weird porn. Somehow these are fine, but sex dolls aren’t? I’m not advocating for one or the other, but it seems like if we call one “bad”, the other should be too.

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          If you read the title of the article, it would seem this is absolutely enforceable.

          Also, of course Lemmy is arguing in favour of child sex dolls, I’d expect nothing less.

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            lol they’re not arguing against because it’s a pointless measure

            you’re confusing picking your fights with being supportive

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              If children sex dolls are readily available it risks normalizing the concept of sex with children. Both for potential pedophiles as well as children who browse shein, might get the impression that adults having sex with children is a thing.

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              It absolutely has a point, the point being manufacturing and selling sex toys that look like children is absolutely disgusting.

              And picking your battles doesn’t typically mean arguing against the law being passed on the Internet.

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                    Having sex with a doll also only involves grown adults.

                    You justified the ban with it being disgusting so I repeat the question: Why not ban scat fetish then as well?

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                ah, the point is that it’s disgusting, thanks for confirming the emptiness of the argument

                next time I’m before an unflushed toilet I’ll call the authorities