And of course all shit electric cars are all automatic. It’s part of the NWO agenda. They want to force us all into electric, automatic cars, Over my dead body! A car that does not produce smelly fumes when driving is not a real car. What I am supposed to smell when walking in the city? Air? Fucking dumb. On top of that they make no sound! There’s nothing to tune up to make my car sound like a racing machine. How I’m supposed to let everyone know I have a small dick if I can’t rev my engine all the time? Not me mention electric cars don’t emit CO2 so I can’t lock myself in a garage with the engine running and kill myself when I realize that no one is impressed by my car and my dick is still tiny. Absurd!
I’ve literally seen people post that they’d consider going electric if only it had an engine sound. Seriously, people who are old enough to have a drivers license want their car to go wroom wroom.
I get it. It’s the same reason all cars have a steering wheel, despite it being the most dangerous part of the interior. Joysticks just don’t give the same feel as when the captain steers the boat over the seven seas.
Wroom wroom, steer steer, wroooom, change gear while turning, push pedal, wroom wroom.
I mean the wheel is definitely the best control mechanism for driving… whether or not it’s dangerous, there’s a reason the best sim racers use wheels and not controllers and it’s that they provide vastly more control. So nice argument except it’s all based on a false claim that joysticks are better lmaoooo
I think it’s just a matter of getting used to it. Something like a playstation controller would be easy to learn for most people. People who play racing games seriously wouldn’t use a wheel and pedals. It’s just too slow.
Huh? People that use steering wheel and peddles for racing games have a serious advantage, it’s far more accurate, I have no idea what makes you think it’s too slow or what that’s even supposed to mean.
Most people use a controller for racing games because there’s no setup or space requirements and it’s what they’re used to. Plus a basic decent steering wheel setup is about three to four times the cost of a standard Xbox or PlayStation controller.
Huh. I guess times have changed. It used to be that keyboard players would always win.
Anyway it doesn’t change my opinion on the topic. Car steering wheels are stupid and only kept relevant because it’s fun to turn.
But in a racing game the wheels can also twist from hard lock left to hard lock right in a millisecond, not sure that’s possible or desired in real life
I was extraordinarily glad to have a wheel when my power steering failed and found myself having to turn the car using the strength of my arms and the mechanical leverage of the wheel. A joystick would’ve made the vehicle literally impossible to steer.
I’ll just leave this here. In short: a guy wrote a physics engine to simulate any combustion engine, and then further got it working with an electric motor so electric motors can use a simulated vroom vroom
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I’ve literally seen people post that they’d consider going electric if only it had an engine sound.
In many regions now it’s actually mandated that EVs make additional noise when moving at low speeds (less than 40km/h or so). There were concerns that quiet vehicles would have more pedestrian accidents.
electric cars are all automatic
They aren’t, really. They don’t actually change gears, if you want to go backwards you spin the motor backwards.
Hilariously, jump starting EVs is a thing if the 12V battery dies. And no, you can’t roll start them.
tl;dr: my PHEV does change gears when in EV mode, as weird as it sounds
So, I drive a Hyundai Ioniq Plug-in Hybrid EV (PHEV). It’s a hybrid with a larger battery so you can plug it in and drive fully-EV on the battery for about 30 miles/50 kilometers or so. The freaky thing is that the EV motor is connected to the transmission, so it does switch gears sometimes and you can feel it when it does. Even freakier is that this also applies to regenerative braking: when you slow down from a high speed, you can sometimes feel it switching gears while you brake. That all isn’t too bad since it’s got a dual-clutch transmission and so it switches gears pretty quickly, but it can still be a bit freaky at times.
Additionally: there are some people who have converted antique cars to EVs, but to save money they didn’t touch the transmission and instead elected only to replace the engine. They still have manual transmissions in them, though I suppose you could probably just find a suitable gear to leave them on 100% of them time. Still, you can, in principle, switch gears on them.
Typically I’ve seen people keep their car in 2nd (or reverse IIRC? That way your controller doesn’t have to support reverse and you don’t have to put in a new switch on the dash) in electric swaps. Also you don’t use the clutch pedal to start, only to change gears, which is a bit freaky when you’re not used to it.
On the highway there might be value in switching to a higher gear though, torque/efficiency curves aren’t perfectly flat even on electric motors. I would be curious to know what gains would be had on a modern electric platform like an ID.3 if one was to put in a cheap two or three gears sequential/manual transmission (for all I know the efficiency gains would not offset the additional losses from the clutch and gearbox, and even if they are some gains I’m sure that they do not make up for the inconvenience/lack of comfort of a MT).
Over my dead body!
Be careful now. The German car and American gun industry might listen and team up.
Or the car will be like “You’re creeping forward with your driver’s door open? I’m going to slam in to park without even asking first then all my dash lights will be going full xmas mode while I beep incessantly. Because fuck you, that’s why.”
“Oh no a slight bump in the road. Better shout about it and slam the brakes lmao”
If I’m at a t-intersection with a car parked on the side of the road in front, I’ll start turning, car thinks I’m about to t-bone someone, red lights and alarms everywhere. Scares the fucking shit out of me. The first time it happened I slammed the brakes on and fortunately didn’t get rear-ended.
That system has never done anything but cause me to almost have an accident and to turn it off is buried away in the settings each time I start the car. And the lane keeping assist is so dumb at understanding how people take an apex on corners, or dealing with the faded lines. “Give me the fucking wheel back!” tug LURCH “Fuck!”
It’s like learning to drive with my hyper-anxious mother in the passenger seat all over again, flipping out and unexpectedly trying to intervine over nothing she thought was something.
I’m so glad to see I’m not the only one with issues with those “driver nanny” systems, as I call them. The one in our Mazda regularly false alarms in left turn lanes, and occasionally triggers on signposts and shit while turning right. I had to turn off the lane assist; the damn thing kept steering me back toward obstacles I was actively trying to avoid (I guess I’m “supposed” to swerve to avoid them, but that was not how I learned to drive - swerving is something that should be done only in an emergency, and an obstacle I can see well ahead isn’t an emergency). The emergency braking alarm is occasionally triggered by cars parked along the road on a curve.
It doesn’t help that the alarm in that car is like nails on a chalkboard to me - it just instantly pisses me off. Why can’t it just be a nice little chime or something? Unfortunately, we didn’t hear the alarm until we were getting the overview from the salesman during delivery - during the test drive, the salesman had started it without us there and drove it to the door, and we just hopped in, then we didn’t trigger it during the test drive. The first time I heard it was when I started the car during delivery - “WHAT IS THAT NOISE?” Salesman: “Oh it’s just the driver seat belt alarm.” “Oh.” Then a few days later, on our way to work, it gave us its first false alarm, and I almost hit the brakes because I thought there was something seriously wrong with the car and I should stop driving it. Nope, it was just misinterpreting the situation.
It’s to the point where I will only drive the car on local trips - if we’re going out of town, I will take the pickup. It’s more expensive to drive, but so much more comfortable, and it doesn’t have blaring alarms screeching at me.
Unfortunately I think practically all cars these days have that shit, so I won’t have any options when my wife finally lets me get rid of the Mazda. In my ideal world, we’d buy a 2016 Honda Accord V6 (the last year they made them with V6 engines) and just keep that running forever. However, I doubt my wife would agree to that plan.
I would REALLY like to see the crash statistics for those cars. Theoretically the frequency and/or severity of crashes should be reduced, right? But road fatalities are up the last few years…which may indicate those safety features aren’t helping, or maybe they’re making people too confident, or maybe they are helping and the situation would be even worse without them. But no one seems to have that info.
One of the main reasons I still like older cars. I consider it harassment when I get ding donged to death for not wearing the seatbelt for a two minute drive down the road, if this shit ever happened to me the car is getting fuckin sold ASAP
Wear your seatbelt, you ding dong.
ever needed to put something heavy in the passengers seat ? ever needed to move the car a short distance slowly ?
In both cases, wear your seatbelt, you ding dong.
am i required to also put the seatbelt down for the heavy object ? seems a bit unnecessary in both cases :/
Manual transmission is also a great anti-theft device, since most kids don’t know how to drive it.
Don’t worry, AI transmission works most of the time (but every now and then it may hallucinate on the highway…)
As someone studying tech, yes please, give me the dummest most rudimentary car with no computer or servos. I don’t want general motors to gather my biometrics or a script kiddy to disable my steering. Dumb technology is best always. Fuck that android auto bs or whatever abomination the manufacturer adds. Just want a speaker with an aux cord so I can listen to my flacs
Yeah I couldn’t have said it better. Go around asking mechanics what they drive and they are all going to say this pretty much
YES, YOU GET IT
No wonder you’re just studying. I’ve met plenty of people like you. Just because YOU can’t do a good job or understand it, doesn’t make it bad.
Sincerely, Engineer with 13 years of experience.
Surely the volume knob isn’t a real gear stick, right?
2019 Ford Edge
but… it gets worse!
2023 GMC Terrain
That automatic transmission control is really dreamed up by someone utterly deranged.
Oh damn I wasn’t expecting to see a 2023 car with an AUX port
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Most of not-North-America drive around in manual vehicles. Have to wonder what the allure is of something which is kind of mundane and boring. When I’m driving a manual I’m not thinking I’m Steve McQueen, just constantly shifting gears between sets of traffic lights. If people really want to connect with a car, then buy an EV. Instant torque and responsiveness without screwing around with extra sticks and pedals or suffering the rubber banding in some automatics.
It depends on what sort of experience you want, what roads you drive, whether it’s mostly country or city, do track running etc.
I like manual more for various reasons. I don’t do much city driving nor do I get stock in heavy traffic ques. I drive country roads and highways and do a few track days. With a manual I get a much more satisfying experience, as it requires more skill to make fast and/or smooth shifts. The tactile feel of the manual gear shifter makes me feel more connected to my car. Flappy pads shifting automatic doesn’t require the same skill nor has the same tactile feel. It’s awesome for city and ques though.
I don’t think we have the same idea of what it means to be connected with the car. Most EVs aren’t seeking to have you drive them, they are seeking to drive you, imho (except maybe the Hyundai N range thats coming, but only because it tries to manic cars).
I switched from manual to auto after I moved to Reading and found myself constantly dancing the clutch fandango in all the stop start traffic.
When driving an auto I have to be real careful not to try and hit the ‘clutch’. Brake checked myself more than once doing that.
This meme is pre-electric.
Hyundai is making an Ioniq 5 N, that can simulate gears and gearchanges so people can still feel like vroooom, vroooooom. You can’t make that up.
Toyota is working on a fake manual too. As a manual enthusiast… I think it’s just dumb.
Maybe I’m kidding myself but I feel like even if I won the lottery I still wouldn’t replace my -07 Nissan Pickup. I’d probably have the thing entirely rebuilt but it’s basically my dream car as it is so other than customizing it even more there’s nothing newer trucks have that I wish mine did too. The only downside to older vehicles is the increased need for maintenance though I’m much rather fixing a 15 year old truck today than 2023 truck in 2038.
04 Nissan Frontier over here. I specifically bought it because it has a manual transmission which is hard to find in the US. I drove all the way up to Seattle from Portland to get it. There are maintenance issues given its age, but I still love it. Apart from the bullshit bells and whistles, it’s still every bit as capable as any new pickup in its class. I’ve doctored it up a bit over the years, so it’s not fully stock anymore.
Yeah I ignored all the automatics aswell. Mine has a 6 speed manual, 4x4, low range and a rear diff lock.
They’re called Navara here in Europe. I’m not sure how different it’s from Frontier except that it has a 2.5 litre turbo diesel rather than petrol engine. I think it’s a damn nice looking truck despite its age and with modifications it can be made to look even better. Mine is all murdered out.
Someone bring this sniveling fool to me! I grew up on a farm and when I learned to drive, I started with a 5x3 manual double stick and then “graduated” to a 15 speed. I will have this fool crying in his pablum within a mile.
I’m all for automatics. What transmission you drive does not lessen the driving experience.
I don’t drive a car that needs detonating dino-dhiarrea anymore. And BEVs only habe one gear. So there’s that.
You drive a car that indirectly needs dino-dhiarrea. Only moved the problem one step.
Nope. I pay a bit extra for electricity from renewables. You could argue that the stuff that comes out of the socket still is the energy-mix that is produced at the time, but my invoice says something along the lines of “x kWh of electricity generated from renewable sources” and x kWh of electricity from renewable sources will have been fed into the grid over the time frame covered by my invoice. Good enough for me.
I could argue which energy source has been used to produce those panels and the battery, extract the materials, etc.
Not really. Do you need energy to produce those things? Yes. But how much dino-energy can be saved during the livetime of those products? Way more!
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