wow… OS Subcription-Based with AI?
you’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy
I’m glad I already moved to Linux for 2 years
Why is this sub spreading AI slop?
The entire article is based on rumors, clickbait and hallucinations.
For all the people on here quick to mock others for being gullible enough to fall for AI-generated slop, this is embarrassing.
I dare them to pull it through and not back down. It will finally be the year of the Linux desktop known to us in hindsight.
Subscription-based. AI-focused.
Lol. No thanks.
You’ll be hounded relentlessly to upgrade until you give up and pay the monthly usage fee
Or switch to Linux
It’s so fucking nice, in nearly all aspects
I’ve been off Windows since 2006, when I switched to Apple. I’ve been off Apple since last year, when I switched to Linux (Ubuntu first, then Mint). It really really rules.
I used my wife’s Win11 computer recently for some fairly simple tasks (one was converting a Word document to PDF and emailing it to her). It was a borderline nightmare. Using the search field in the Documents folder sent me to the web, Word froze because “Microsoft365 and Office need to update.” Then I get a notice that there’s a BIOS update and it would only let me dismiss the window for “120 seconds.” Add to that that, graphically, it looks like garbage and the whole thing makes me bewildered that this is what passes for the global “standard” of desktop OSes. I feel sorry for people who have to use it.
I’m amazed companies tolerate this bloat. I’ve worked at a place where I still had built in Xbox shit popping up all over my desktop while the CEO was standing at my desk talking to me. :-D
Going home and logging into a “clean” computer is a breath of fresh air.
Nah, I’m not the target audience. Switched to Linux over a decade ago with no regrets. Windows is essentially malware now.
they are hoping businesses will be forced to buy the AI slop machines.
If you’re a loser.
Yeah, you don’t get to say no thanks. Your boss will still buy Windows 12. The corporate world will still steal your soul. The world of politics will still be corrupt. And Tupac Shakur will still continue to be the CEO of Burger King.
My boss is actually actively pushing macs for new employees and to replace old windows laptops.
Wouldn’t it be great if they didn’t see a price tag as a sign of quality and went with Linux instead? What a great world that’d be…
The It department told me the reason that they don’t support Linux is the lack of good endpoint management software and the support overhead compared to MacOs
Most endpoint management software supports Linux as well as they do Macs these days (probably better, because Apple keeps locking management agents out of settings). These days, the problem is more one of talent and marketing. You have to have people who actually know enough to successfully manage them, and also the upper brass love to be sold to. It’s all getting there though. I wish more governments would take the plunge, that would help the talent issue at least.
They know it exists, they are just very understaffed so don’t have time getting more complex things set up.
At least the devs get to have Linux if they can fix their own problems, but no more new non Mac Hardware…
I honestly doubt that’s true. I’m sure there aren’t any with the same marketing budget, but I’d bet they exist and work just as well.
If it doesn’t exist, it would if companies started moving to Linux.
Lack of endpoint management software
Then fucking make one?? Software development is part of the IT, no?
I’m not sure if you’re being serious, but software engineering and IT systems administration are different roles typically filled by different people.
A company or organization can have a quite sophisticated IT department without having any software engineers on staff.
I don’t care at work because I’m not paying for it or doing anything involving my personal data or any power user stuff. Windows barely matters there. Everything has moved into web apps and websites.
I use 10 for my gaming/media PC.
I’ll use 11 if I have to when using some public computer or something.
But I absolutely, categorically, refuse to even touch a ‘subscription-based, AI-focused’ OS, ever, for any reason.
Just it being Windows, no matter those things, should be enough for everyone to go “Lol. No thanks.” But sadly that isn’t and won’t be the case. Hundreds of millions of people will just go along with it, even the idea of something else existing will never occur for them and Microsoft knows this. All the hate and outrage about how evil they are and how Windows has gone to (from like Windows 95) absolute shit has only made a very small portion of their possible userbase switch to or even ignited the idea of finding out about something else. I think the only way Microsoft will loose enough “customers” is if it just dies, nothing else will make the average person lift a single finger or have a neuron activate for making the leap.
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“Fully modular” reads to me as “1 step away from returning to the terminal-mainframe” business model.
Not doing a subscription based OS.
Just throwing that out there.
“Fully modular” as 'It can run on a toaster" or as “For access to the file manager, subscribe to premium”?
So when they said “windows 10 will be the last windows”, they were kinda right. Just not the way the imagined…
I don’t wanna sound like someone defending Microsoft, but that line was taken out of context. It was originally something like “last one you’ll buy” meaning they’re giving free upgrades now to future OSes.
…but then again, even under that meaning this is pretty shitty. Most people would rather buy something than have to rent it forever. Especially when the norm is already that they own it. Doubly so when that price is already hidden and baked into the price of the hardware the user is buying. Most folks probably aren’t even aware they’re “paying” for Windows in some form when they buy a laptop.
(Yes yes nobody owns Windows, they own a license to use it blah blah blah.)
It’s sort of funny to me, that original Windows 10 “last OS” thing came from around the time Jetbrains tried to push a subscription model over a purchase model. They ended up going with subscription with a perpetual fall back license which seems to be the best of both. (Once you pay for 12 continuous months, whatever version you had at the start of the 12 months you get a perpetual license for. So if you stop paying the subscription after 15 months, whatever version existed 12 months ago you can use forever.) I can’t really see Microsoft doing that though.
meaning they’re giving free upgrades now to future OSes.
Isn’t this essentially a Freemium model? Free to play, pay for the upgrades and premium features like Windows Defender?
It’s sort of the opposite (prior to Windows 12 supposedly being subscription based). They were claiming you’d pay once and get get all subsequent versions for free. The way they offered upgrades to 10 and 11 for free from previous versions.
Isn’t that the trap? “We’ll give you all the upgrades for free! Upgrade yourself deeper and deeper into the dark forest, farther from the light where you paid once for apps. Now those apps that works under Windows 10 years ago are no longer compatible and you’ll need to pay $1 a month for MS Paint.”
If the OS is free, and then the “modular” aspects are how they nickel-and-dime you into paying $100/mo for the things you used to pay $130 for once.
From the story:
Some features of Windows 11 might also be locked away behind a subscription model that are expected to be “advanced AI services”, but the core OS will be a one-time purchase only.
And if you already paid for Windows 10, then you don’t pay. Easy-peasey. But, with new hardware requirements to run CoPilot, there’s going to be very few machines that could run Windows 10 that would also run Windows 12. So that lie will fall apart anyway.
So if you want to make CoPilot less stupid at everything but spying on you, you pay. Want to use your GPU? Subscribe to “Gamer Bundle!” Want access to CMD? Subscribe to “Developer options!” Want to turn off ads? Subscribe to Ad-free tier! Want to change the desktop background? Subscribe to access a custom fucking JPG on your computer! Want to change the theme? Subscribe to a color scheme! Want to use a printer? Subscribe to “Print Plus!”
You still have to purchase a license for Windows 11 (yeah, I know the options) if you are building a new computer. Even with the “last OS you’ll buy!” it was bullshit.
Sounds like a huge sack of shit
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Absofuckinglutely not.
And I say this as a dedicated Windows user who spent a year on Ubuntu Linux a decade ago and hated it. Windows does this, and sign me up for penguin lessons.
Finally, an OS for me! My biggest complaint since the days of Windows 95 has been the lack of being able to add new features. I didn’t really care what they are, but I just like the process of subscribing to additional features until I can max them all out.
And secondly, my next biggest gripe has been how hard it is to find AI. It’s never at my fingertips. Now that it’ll be integrated into the OS itself, I can finally use AI for everything! And if I can buy new hardware annually to allow me to resubscribe to all the latest features, while telling AI my shipping habits, I think it’ll be perfect!
I can’t wait to give Bill Gates money for this! I know he’ll spend it on a good cause. Maybe two young Russian good causes! He’s such a cool guy and not at all a billionaire creepo, thank goodness!
[insert “Had me in the first half” image macro here]
I know he’ll spend it on a good cause.
Antibiotics, for those times when he cares enough to give the gift that keeps on giving
I can’t wait to give my credit card information to my AI agent so it can buy more features for me without me monitoring it!
Imagine waking up to a fully decked out Windows 12 plus pro 365 hell yeah 730 Copilot ?
Is it April 1 already?
Windows 12? Well, I’m using Debian 13. 13 is a bigger number than 12; therefore, Debian is better than Windows.
laughs in fedora 43
Puny mortals, observe the power of a real GOD
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/windows/images/f/fd/Windows_Server_2008_R2_desktop.png
looks at my Gentwo
Yeah but gen 2 was peak Pokemon
You compiled the version number as a string?
NixOS
25.11unstable :/Hard truth 👍
April Fools?
