• tetris11@feddit.uk
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    I see posts like this and wonder if I’m looking at an outlier, or if this is genuinely 80% of their voter base

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      The MAGA base is almost entirely people who are so reactionary to their own feelings that they will never, ever listen to arguments from places of reason like the joke in the meme OP posted.

      “If it makes me feel good, it’s good. If it makes me feel bad, it’s bad.” - American conservatives broadly.

      What they don’t get, and will never understand, is that the narratives for how they feel are being supplied to them from outside sources. A tactic that only grifters on the right seem to have the balls to employ, despite it being the easiest thing in the world to change how these clowns feel and thus what direction they’re pointed at.

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          Broadly maybe, but we’re talking about a specific demographic of people who have been studied to be more reactionary, more emotional, less educated and less informed broadly. These are people who run off narratives supplied to them to explain their feelings, and there is only one group who are supplying these narratives directly to them about why they’re unhappy.

          The left and liberals have both been hung up on civility and honesty to a fault, almost as if setting up every engagement to fail, because we’ve known for decades and decades that you’re not going to change Cletus’s attitude towards immigrants with statistics and facts, he already feels awful, scared, overworked and insecure, if you try to explain to him that he’s also wrong about his feelings, you’re going to hit a wall and make him double-down. If you try to make him feel empathy for others especially people who are very different from Cletus, you will only make yourself a living personification of the picture of the “enemy” which they’ve been given.

          Meanwhile, if instead of arguing you redirect their dissatisfaction towards the right targets, you won’t have to change their feelings towards minorities or women or whatever, if you point them at the billionaire class who are actually stripping away their benefits and raising their taxes, they will stop caring about race and gender and identity politics. You can channel that rage at specific targets instead of trying to constantly tell a huge segment of the population that they’re wrong and dumb. (Despite them being factually wrong and dumb. Again, just telling dumb people they’re dumb won’t change them, it will only make them worse.)

          This outcome, of the left pushing the dumb towards corporations and billionaires is exactly what the actual ruling class fears so much and why they depend so, so much on creating as much division as possible, and why we now have bots arguing on social media and adopting the most radical positions of both sides of every issue.

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            The right already has a well developed pipeline for this, if the D’s (or a left leaning/progressive) group tapped into it they would shave years off developing their own pipeline while also being able to directly reach Cletus’s of America.

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        A tactic that only grifters on the right seem to have the balls to employ

        Just to check if we’re on the same page, do you consider US Dems as “right” or something else?

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          The American Democrat party, for the most part, are completely compromised or have capitulated to the same donors who donate to Republicans. Particularly the establishment members who have run the institution for many decades.

          I don’t think Republicans or Democrats are actually “left” or “right” I don’t think they have values at all, at least not since the last principled political figures all died off. With a couple exceptions they’re almost all entirely a media management company with two branches, but have the same goals.

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      80% of their voter base has a brother or cousin like this, and they’ll be the ones ostracized if they don’t condone it. Infinite forgiveness for family and bloodline.

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      If you look at polls there is like 33% of the population who will support Trump no matter what. Of those, about half are relatively normal people who are just kind of stupid and from areas where conservatism is the norm and would support everything literally anyone did if they were Republicans. The other half are these people.

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    Those poor girls.

    You know they’ll be indoctrinated and taught to obey and comply with anything the men want

    Seriously, being a Republican should be enough reason for CPS to pay you a visit

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      And yet, they breed like they get paid in meth to produce the weirdest looking smooth brains out there.

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      What you’re seeing and confusing for family fuckin, I believe is actually Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Skinny necks, funny shaped heads, narrow shoulders, mom couldn’t quit the hooch.

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    I’m almost positive this is on Fremont Street in Las Vegas, and this asshole looks exactly like the piece of shit that would bring his 6 kids on a “family vacation” to Vegas. Last time I was there, Fremont Street had really gone downhill.

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    Ouch, look at the arch in the low back of the girl on the left. She better marry an orthopedist, chiropractor or sometjing. That lumbar is going to be hurting all the time in 10 to 15 years.

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    My personal conspiracy theory is there’s a social media wide psyop focused on reducing popular critique of the right into easily dismissed personal insults.

    I sure am glad the women’s beauty standard police have joined the liberal cause. Also, make sure to direct some hate at the kids. They surely have all kinds of agency in where they’re going, what they’re doing, and a wealth of knowledge about modern politics

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    Bag on it all you want, but that man has 6 kids which is probably 6 more than most adults on this site. As long as he isn’t a complete scumbag he will likely he will pass most of his views and questionable morals to his kids.

    Normally you have a chance to deprogram these kids through higher education but Republicans have recognized this and are trying their hardest to sabotage higher Ed.

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      You’re not wrong. Stupid people are outbreeding smart people by orders of magnitude. Nobody wants to talk about it though because there is no socially acceptable “nice” way to deal with it. Bolstering education is about the best we can hope for but clearly that isn’t going well.

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        Intelligence is not a transferable trait, unlike physical traits. There’s no guarantee that these kids won’t educate themselves and surpass their parents in intellectual capabilities. All we need is indeed better public education.

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            Huh. TIL I guess. That study cites a bunch of credible sources at least, but I haven’t had a chance to dig into the findings in detail yet.

            That said, even per the cited paper, the difference between your kids growing up dumb or smart is primarily environmental. So, that supports my original point: Given proper education there’s a good chance these kids will grow up to surpass their parents.

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          There’s no guarantee of anything in life. You can say that, statistically speaking, intelligent parents raise intelligent children though. The inverse is often true as well.

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        there’s something to that, but we shouldn’t go to Idiocracy, funny movie, but still eugenic rethoric.

        globally intelligence is rising, is based on education and child quality of life, that’s why America is doing all it can to gut education and promote child misery.