• Riverside@reddthat.com
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      Like in the USSR

      There was no capitalism in the USSR.

      1. There was no exploitation of surplus value because surplus value was reallocated to all society through public ownership, since there was no owning class reaping those benefits as demonstrated by the USSR having the lowest levels of inequality in the history of the region by a long shot.

      2. There were no markets in the USSR. Goods were not allocated according to market rules but according to a rational plan, and goods didn’t have prices determined by market rules but by economic planning.

      You should definitely get better informed before discussing topics you don’t understand

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          The New Economic Policy was always, explicitly, a temporary setback caused by the utter destruction of the country by the civil war. It lasted a whopping 8 years, from 1921 to 1929, and as soon as it was abolished, industrial growth skyrocketed to previously unimaginable figures of 10-15% per year, uplifting hundreds of millions from destitute poverty and doubling life expectancy in 30 years. The USSR’s industrial revolution was literally founded on economic planning, the polar opposite of capitalist markets. What’s your point?

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            I have no idea why you’re being so hostile or pedantic. My point was that socialist countries can use capitalism as a tool when it’s suborned to the state. You conceded my point. What’s YOUR point?

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              My point is “capitalism subordinated to the state like the USSR” is an extremely misleading claim, and it’s often used by anticommunists who make uninformed accusations of “USSR was state capitalism so it was the same as capitalism” without knowledge of the topic. If that’s not the claim you’re making, I apologize