• btsax@reddthat.com
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    2 days ago

    Nixon and Reagan both conspired with hostile foreign governments to win elections and we let both of those guys off the hook. Why would this be different?

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        1 day ago

        I don’t see a whole lot of lesson-learning going on. Except by those who have been taught that when they break laws there isn’t punishment

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          21 hours ago

          The POLITICIANS don’t seem to have learned anything, at least the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries haven’t. They might as well be working for them.

          But the Citizens have. We know that the Dems have done nearly nothing to protect us from the MAGA scourge, and we are likely to have to do it ourselves.

          But some are awake, and others are waking. We may yet be able to force the Dems to do their jobs, and fight for us. How the Dems respond to the inevitable MAGA screaming when they get crushed in the Midterms will tell the tale. If Schmuck & Jeffries let them get away with stealing this election, too, like they did with 2024, them we’ll have to take matters into our own hands.

          And for their fecklessness, our elected Dems will find themselves nearly as big an enemy as MAGA.

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      Different?

      Yeah. The ruling class, and the oligarchs who own them, have made it abundantly clear they will burn the whole system down rather than allow one of their own to be held accountable.

      See also: Biden 2020/AG Garland

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        They need the current system in place way more than we do. They benefit greatly by this system, we don’t. They may THREATEN to burn it down, but they won’t. They worked too hard, and they benefit too much by it, to let it go.

        Before they’ll destroy the system that has made them wealthy, and will continue to make them wealthy, they’ll surrender, and live to fight another day.

        They’ll kill MAGA before they’ll kill the THEIR economy.

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          18 hours ago

          They are using the dissolution of the USSR as their model.

          The current system transfers wealth upwards, but they will be happy to dismantle it if it means they can seize control of all the national infrastructure, resources, and the machinery of State directly and permanently.

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        If we read of one man robbed, or murdered, or killed by accident, or one house burned, or one vessel wrecked, or one steamboat blown up, or one cow run over on the Western Railroad, or one mad dog killed, or one lot of grasshoppers in the winter, - we need never read of another. One is enough. If you are acquainted with the principle, what do you care for a myriad instances and applications?

        -Thoreau, Walden