• rainwall@piefed.social
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    Judges can go past fines. You can be jailed on contempt charges if they like, and its basically up to them when they release you.

    The escalation is that the next time this lawyer enters the courthouse, they are jailed until the fine is paid. Kinda hard to dodge contempt charges when you constantly have to go to court to do your job.

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      One problem with your theory: The enforcement arm of the Federal Judiciary is the US Marshall Service. They are part of the executive branch of government, and as so, ultimately accountable to the President. In addition, Federal judges house prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities, and, you guessed it, is also and executive branch agency. The current administration is making a point to not follow judges orders and ignore them at will.

      It will take a very brave judge to get around this. Technically a Federal Justice can deputize their own enforcement and create a confinement area of their choosing. This will probably create a Constitutional crisis and very well could lead to a civil war. This is what the powers that be want, to burn it all down and start over.

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        This will probably create a Constitutional crisis

        Pretty certain a judge doing something the constitution allows won’t create a constitutional crisis. We’re already in the middle of one. People are either propagandized enough they don’t believe it, or aren’t in a position to do much about it.

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          We’re already in the middle of one.

          Yeah … people say ‘would create a constitutional crisis’ like we don’t already have an executive branch that routinely ignores the checks and balances put upon it by the other two branches.

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          Yes, I agree to an extent. Though, there is a difference between slow walking, small defiance, outright defiance of judicial orders and a full on sizing of power by the executive branch. If a judge uses old laws and does something like issue warrants and arrests executive branch officers or officials, my guess is that the Trump response is to outright seize the judiciary and arrest them. The Supreme Court is already in their pocket, so the crisis I am talking about is essentially a military type coup, ending America as we know it. This would the likely cause a civil war. The underlying problem is that many of the people behind this think that this is okay and are waiting for it. They think they can win.