This is a real “AI” ad from the US government about the end of the mandatory use of the auto start-stop.

This is from the official Whitehouse Instagram.

Only things I can see that gives it away that the video is generated is the red car’s brake lights being on while accelerating. The obvious stereotypes of bule haired lesbians vs the blonde.

Also they have no insignias on the cars but that’s definitely a Prius and idk what the red car is, the red car might not exist in real life.

Spoting generated videos is going to get harder. However if it’s obvious propaganda from the state then you should be suspicious.

It’s impressive for generated video even though it is stupid as fuck. I won’t get too in the weeds about why this is stupid as the point of the post is more about the use of AI in state sponsored propaganda.

Just to get it out of the way, here is why this is a stupid policy:

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  • JayleneSlide@lemmy.world
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    Idling engines chap my ass. But TINSTAAFL. Auto stop is terrible for engines; the majority of engine wear in passenger automobiles occurs at startup. Also, during auto stop, the catalytic converter cools down a bit, so emissions go up. More wear —> more emissions —> more waste.

    Edit: For my rebuttal, I started digging into this. While the sources I found are still “auto technician says so,” it looks like engines with auto-stop are built for more start-stop cycles. I was operating on outdated information. Automobile engines were/are typically designed for 100k to 150k starts. In trying to find more information about auto-stop, the overall consensus seems that auto-stop engines are designed for >300k starts. Moreover, there seem to be some accounts indicating that exhaust temperature is part of the auto-stop monitoring, which would make sense and keep the emissions controls running properly.

    So, thanks to @borkborkbork, @0ops, and @Janx for prompting me to get updated information.

    But as a bike commuter, auto stop was pleasant in traffic, at least until everyone suddenly started up again and then stomped on the pedal.

    The wholesale gutting of all attempts at environmental protection is an interesting choice for the “protect the children” party. But even as an avid car hater, I’m not sure this is a huge loss.

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      the majority of engine wear in passenger automobiles occurs at startup.

      Cold startup. Oil temps don’t instantly drop the second the engine shuts off. The only real additional wear is on the starter, flywheel, and battery, but then every auto start system I’ve heard of is overbuilt specifically to deal with that.

      Also, during auto stop, the catalytic converter cools down a bit, so emissions go up.

      The car’s not emitting at all when it’s stopped. Any emissions prevented by idling to keep the cat hot are dwarfed by what was emited to…do nothing except keep the cat hot. It’s like spending $5 to save $1.

      Look buddy I don’t even like auto-stop and my car’s too old to have it anyway, but this is misinformation

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        you had me at overbuilt. Since thats the system that like to die I would be psyched at a vehicle having it hardened.

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      Source? Modern engines have special bearings and oil systems to put up with ASS systems. Emissions do not go up, otherwise it would have been killed by CAFE long ago.

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      Any reputable sources for your claims? My understanding is that vehicles that have auto start-stop are designed differently. It’s vastly different from turning off your vehicle without the feature at every stoplight.

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        The starter motors are better, and the oils are thinner now in all vehicles, but there is still more wear in start stop vehicles than In the same ones where it’s been disabled.

    • borkborkbork@piefed.social
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      Auto stop is terrible for engines;

      this would be true for a pre-2000 car. systems designed for it not so much.