• Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    You’re point is you want to claim people that don’t vote for the Democrats are stupid, because you think that’s the best way to stop the GOP.

    The problem is the whole Vote Blew No Matter Hoo strategy has been failing for 25 years. It’s what brought you here, and yet you don’t want to accept that.

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      2 days ago

      I’m not accepting it, but what I am accepting is that it’s going to take changes in phases to work. We’re going to have to do local voting reform, make ranked choice the standard, push for third party candidates, get rid of gerrymandering, etc.

      I’m also accepting the facts of how things were, and are now, before those reforms. Those changes we need to make to fix this haven’t been implemented yet. They certainly didn’t exist in the last election.

      Would it have been rad if everyone voted third party last election out of nowhere? Yeah. Might’ve even worked if there was a way to get everyone on board for that.

      But we don’t live in the might’ve world, we live in the world of what is.

      So yeah, until the system is fixed, it sucks, but the Democrats are what we have to work with to fight the Republicans. I don’t like it, but they are the ones who have that leverage, much more than the green party or whatever.

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        2 days ago

        But we don’t live in the might’ve world, we live in the world of what is.

        Yes, and the current world - with an unrestrained GOP bringing open fascism without resistance from the supposed opposition party - is exactly the product of the strategy you’re advocating continuing. That’s the issue. This didn’t come out of nowhere.

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              1 day ago

              Weird, that’s not the president.

              Look, the system is fucked up but also you gotta do the good you can even in a broken system.

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                22 hours ago

                Yup. So my vote showed that I wouldn’t vote for genocide and Republican policies. Yours for Kamala showed you would, and Trump won regardless.

                Like I said, mine was the best possible use of my vote.

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                  12 hours ago

                  Yeah you sure showed him. He’s sad in the oval office over it. Good job, you helped get him elected.

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                    11 hours ago

                    Please explain to me how my vote for De La Cruz in NY (which went for Kamala) helped Trump get elected?

                    Show your work, because apparently you don’t understand how elections work.