Jaicilgin: literally hasn’t done shit
Based on this evidence, I’d counter that he has ONLY done shit.
That’s his biological job
Blessed with glorious purpose.
No-one has any biological job. Live how you want.
Even if we had it, imagine how small your life is if you actually believe we are born to do a biological job.
I was put here to add carbon to the air and convert food into shit!
My job is to increase the entropy of the universe faster.
Imagine if we flipped the tables. If it’s all on women to have and raise kids and nothing more, wouldn’t that mean a man’s job is to get laid/donate sperm, impregnate someone once, and that’s it? If that’s all there is and he’s fulfilled his role, there’s no need to stay alive after that. Like a male bee, exploding after mating. Why bother with society, hobbies, learning and growing? OP’s “job” as a man is nothing more than to literally fuck off and die, mission complete.
Obviously I don’t believe that, just taking his argument to its logical conclusion. I’ve heard people say that women are just for making babies so many times in my life, but I’ve never heard men’s role put in the same terms.
It sounds ridiculous because it is ridiculous. We’re all so much more than our biological equipment. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, I just had to rant for a moment.
I like that reasoning. If I had any toxic male friends saying shit like this I might use it, thanks!
Unfortunately they’ll probably just say they are meant to be the masters of a harem and kill any potential rival males. Literally troglodyte shit
Then they should be starting a fight to the death with every man they encounter.
Best to make sure you’re armed and they are not when you reveal this to them.
Imagine if we flipped the tables. If it’s all on women to have and raise kids and nothing more, wouldn’t that mean a man’s job is to get laid/donate sperm, impregnate someone once, and that’s it? If that’s all there is and he’s fulfilled his role, there’s no need to stay alive after that. Like a male bee, exploding after mating.
Humans are not bees, you don’t rip some lazy bum’s dick off as a teen, use it to birth a town of sterile slaves that provide for your every need, and keep using that same sperm for years while birthing over a million babies throughout your life.
From an evolutionary perspective you’re successful if you have more children, that have reached breeding age, than the average. Humans today have a pretty good chance of survival no matter if they have both parents of not, so the only factor in that equation is how many children you can make.
So if you actually flip the tables, the man’s job in the developed world is to make as many babies, and if he makes less than 3 he’s a failure. And they should feel lucky because the guys in Niger/Sudan need to make like 15 or 20 (8-12 is the average).
If you want an animal metaphor instead, think of those jungle birds that spend 99% of their waking time working on breeding (bowyer fe).
Why bother with society, hobbies, learning qand growing?
And following that logic: to make more children to a wide variety of women. Men will literally learn something about every band just so they can hit up women with band merch.
It sounds ridiculous because it is ridiculous. We’re all so much more than our biological equipment. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, I just had to rant for a moment.
It sounds ridiculous, it is ridiculous for humans, but that exact process is why we’re able to choose not to breed.
I disagree.
I have a biological imperative to turn garbage food into poop.
I mean, it’s a job, you can quit any time you want.
it’s not a good idea to quit…
Unless of course you’re a biologist
Dude about to discover the “Male Loneliness epidemic”
And these same people who are MGTOW, or “men going their own way”, are obsessed talking shit about women.
it’s “look at me !! …I don’t need you ! … … look at meeeeee”
Right? If you have to tell people you’re alpha, you ain’t. Much less if you make it the only aspect of your personality.
Just throwing it out there, that scientific discoveries can be done by married mothers as well
Also, if you’re not married with kid at 24 as a dude, you failed.
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume ‘Jaicilgin’ failed.
Man, I hope he failed.
I hope he never stopped failing
I’d guess someone with that mentality started making crotch spawn at 16 or 17, perpetuating a genetic line that will continue to be about as useful to society as an indoor kite. The Stupid breed like rabbits.
Marie Curie was, in fact, a married mother when she did the work that earned her two Nobel Prizes in separate fields.
Listen, power to women, and Vera Rubin’s work was amazing and she deserves every praise.
But nobody has ever proven the existence of Dark Matter. What’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe due to the way things move and effects of gravity, under our current understanding, requiring a large amount of mass that we have not observed.
Does that make sense? It could be that our models or understandings are just wrong, or it could be that there is some magical unobservable matter, but we don’t know. We haven’t proven anything.
The reason I think this is important is because we keep throwing money at bigger and bigger dark matter detection chambers, and we keep operating on the possibly incorrect assumption of dark matter while we create new theories.
What’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe due to the way things move and effects of gravity
This is actually the bit that Vera Rubin discovered. The summary of her discovery in the quote is the issue :)
That’s… What finitebanjo said?
Originally, banjos post read like the line about Vera Rubin was outright incorrect, rather than simply being a case of the OP in the image making a poor summary of her contributions.
It sounded like Banjo was challenging Vera’s relevance in the list, rather than clarifying what she actually did
I would not make praising her the opening statement of my comment if I were challenging her contributions.
Broadly, what you said was “Power to her, but what’s proven is that our current mathematical models do not accurately represent the universe”. The “but” in that statement is that issue, as it sounds like you’re challenging her findings with a correction, but your correction was just to summarise her actual findings
Her achievment is proving the current mathematical models do not represent the universe and explaining why, where many men before her utterly failed.
Her achievment is not proving the existence of dark matter.
The “but” is very warranted and I honestly feel like the “dark matter is real” zealots are the ones besmirching her name by misrepresenting her accomplishments.
What I’m getting at is that your “but” made it sound like you were challenging her findings, rather than images incorrect summary of her findings.
Nope.
Yes, it was.
The reason I think this is important is because we keep throwing money at bigger and bigger dark matter detection chambers, and we keep operating on the possibly incorrect assumption of dark matter while we create new theories.
Okay, Sabine, whatever you say. I’m sure bubble chambers and TPCs (I assume since you’re targeting “chambers” that other experiments like DEAP are fine) for direct detection are a catastrophic money sink that you’re totally not exaggerating even a little.
Edit: Wait, are you specifically targeting the funding for the search for WIMPs? Since you’re just joining us from your 15-year coma, I’m afraid to inform you that problems have gotten much worse for science than bubble chamber and TPC costs.
How would you go about proving the existence of regular matter?
I think therefor I am, I guess.
How do you know you’re made of matter?
Matter describes what exists.
So, dark matter is matter?
Dark matter has never been proven to exist.
The only matter you’ve proven to exist is your own consciousness, so that’s not saying much.
Since you’ve defined matter to be everything that exists, you must believe that whatever is the explanation for dark matter is matter, since it exists.
Tired of these see what the moron said reposts. All they do is promoting the moron.
Don’t feed the trolls aka don’t take the engagement bait.
This doesn’t even make sense from a (pretty stupid) “you have to have children” point of view, what is stopping women to have kids later in life, when they’ve got an education, know what they want in life, and are financially and mentally stable enough to raise them?
Of course I know the answer starts with “m” and ends with “isogyny”, but it’s a very stupid take even in its own framework
Well.
You see. J-douche up there? He likes ‘em young and thinks every guy does, too.
what is stopping women to have kids later in life
Menopause.
But anyway, it’s generally a good idea to have children earlier, because you’ll get to spend more time with them and you won’t be the weird old parent in the school. Also health reasons and whatnot.
As for misogyny, I think it’s mostly from one generation to the next and also more often women to women. Most guys that I know would rather postpone having children as long as possible for the same reasons that you’ve stated.
Menopause doesn’t hit before the 40s or so. Plenty of women have children in their 30s. At that point, they have had time to mature, get an education, and build stable circumstances to raise children. Yes, the consequences of the industrial revolution and so on, but those consequences also basically eradicated the child mortality we had before, for instance.
If someone knows they want a family early, good for them, but I don’t blame anyone wanting to experience life before passing it on.
No doubt. I’m glad I had my 20s to roam around before getting kids, but I’m even more happy to still be young enough that I can travel the world and participate in physical activities with my kids as well. Having kids doesn’t have to mean giving up on experiencing life. They’re part of it, and they’re the best people to share it with. In hindsight, I probably could have cut my party years short by five years without missing a thing. Having kids was the best thing in my life. It might not be for everybody.
I’m in the late 40s now, and I feel it’s too late to have more by now. I know people who do in that age. Divorced couples going for the late common child or DINKs who finally made enough money. It looks really tough for them. It’s temporarily hard work for a couple of years. It’s hard if you’re young and don’t have money, but it’s also hard when you’re old and less agile and physical on top.
Ok, now listen to me. Please, PLEASE, never again say something like
it’s a very stupid take even in its own framework
You never know who’s reading this and I guarantee you that there is always someone ready to take that as a personal challenge.
I mean, I can always decide to argue with someone who seems to disagree but is willing to stick to the rules as argue in good faith. Who knows, maybe one or both of us can learn something. Likewise, I can always decide that someone is so far gone that there’s no point. But to categorically avoid any argument that sounds stupid is not helpful.
Those people are like that because a) they are genuinely bad people, b) they are fueling the fire on purpose, and c) nobody ever convinced them they are stupid.
To not let the a) and b) win, yes, we need to convince people that what they heard is wrong.
Guarantee you he still thinks they are failures. His dick goes limp the moment he sees a woman with a job.
Natural selection. I hope he enjoys his self made “male loneliness” epidemic
A good place to drop a reminder to people that MILLIONS of blue-check twitter users are completely fake, they make American-looking profiles and names and then retweet and post tons of propaganda and rage-bait for engagement, because the couple dollars they make on a successful post is enough to make a living in India, where a majority of these people live.
No hate on India, every country has it’s share of people who are just trying to get by. But for the USA this is really bad because it means we are letting our entire society be influenced by people who have no stake in our future. Elon set this up on purpose because he’s a spiteful, mentally-deficient incel who hates humanity broadly because his tiny dick is broken.
The best thing you can do is tell people to get off Twitter, no matter who they are. Tell conservatives too if you know any, the fact that most users are foreigners in disguise is a good enough real fact that should discourage them from using the site too.
More info on Elon having a broken dick please
People grow, contribute, and succeed on their own timelines. There’s no single deadline for a meaningful life.
Well no… There is a deadline, it’s called death.
Basically anytime before that is preferable really.
My female friend had a female doctor try to talk her out of a contraceptives prescription; that she was 28 and should be having babies…
It’s not a misogyny thing, per se, rather just people that define their lives by the templates supplied by societal stereotypes. Never take advice from a person that doesn’t think for themself.
people that define their lives by the templates supplied by societal stereotypes
This is literally institutional misogyny.
It is many things. Institutional misogyny can be a cause for some.
Oh, for sure. I meant that in this specific example
the templates supplied by societal stereotypes
are called institutional misogyny.
Women are able to perpetuate misogyny. Your comment seems like you think misogyny can only happen to a women from a man. Not sure of your actual intent, but it comes off that way.
per se “by or in itself or themselves; intrinsically.”
Doing something permanent at 28 could be shortsighted and I would agree with the doctor in that case but surely a prescription is just temporary? I don’t see why the doctor would advice against it
Because the doctor is stuck in the mindset that women are baby factories and they should be that above whatever else they want to do in life.
“Boomer isn’t just an age group, it’s a state of mind.” -some rando on the internet
I had my son at 28, not by 24. Speedrun: FAILED.
Oh, and wrote my first novel at 50. Also FAILED, apparently.
A novelist?? What a disappointment! /s
(But seriously, congrats, that’s no easy feat!)
My ancestors are ashamed.
(And thanks. :) )
Related: Gertrude Bell, mountain climber, archaeologist and overall badass british lady that helped shape the middle east post WW1. Despite being a woman, she managed to earn the respect of several nomad arab tribes, you know, those that see women as a man’s property? Those. To the point that, when she died, they all came to her burial and ensured she was treated like a queen.
A very good, 3h17m doc on her life - https://youtu.be/anjha4JNAWg
Why does he want women to marry several kids?
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I think it’s good for people to have children. At least one and preferably no more than two.
If we contain population growth, the riches already created are for the taking for generations to come and the planet finally gets a rest.
It does require a reckoning with the capitalist elite that would like to produce anyway, but I feel that may be coming regardless of our feelings towards children.
The types of people who believe a woman’s only “biological job” is to shit out kids are the same fuckers who haven’t achieved shit in their lives.
Don’t forget Noether! She discovered one of the most fundamental theorems of the universe: (paraphrasing) there is a 1:1 relationship between a conservation law (eg momentum) and symmetry (eg spacetime). This has shaped a lot of modern physics and helped explain otherwise unexplainable phenomena!
Hadn’t heard of her before! The theorem sounds interesting, but the Wikipedia article is a bit dense - I got that “any system with symmetry will have conserved values”, but I got lost on the implications. Would you mind expanding on her theorem?
Sure, the biggest implication is now we can look for symmetries in the universe and deduce a conservation law (with much difficulty by people way better at maths than me). This conservation law is not going to be broken by further refinements of our models, as it is inherent to the system. For example, you probably learnt about conservation of energy when learning Newtonian mechanics, but since this is a product of symmetry (in time iirc), then future refinements such as special or general relativity won’t break conservation of energy. The only way it could is if the symmetry is not fully accurate, like in quantum, where fluctuations in energy are possible, but very minor (providing phenomena such as the Casimir effect).
Most of the details are beyond me, and the maths certainly is, so please don’t take my interpretation of the literature as gospel!
So it lets us work out certain laws inherent in our universe? Wow, I did miss that implication…
