cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/45605798

Australians love hopping over to Europe [and Europeans over to Australia] for a holiday, but actually moving there isn’t so easy, at least for now.

That could soon change, with the European Union offering to make it easier for Australians to live and work across the bloc as part of a long-awaited trade deal with Canberra, sources familiar with the proposal say.

The plan would make it simpler for Australians to take up work in EU member states without needing to secure employment beforehand, with the same rules applying to Europeans heading to Australia.

Four-year limits have reportedly been floated, along with potential settlement pathways, one European source said.

The Albanese Government is weighing the offer, with Australian officials noting it could help fill labour shortages in sectors with comparable training standards, such as construction.

NewsWire reports the initiative was presented as a “sweetener” to bring Canberra over the line on a free-trade agreement.

A majority of EU nations last week backed a trade deal with a five-member bloc in South America, ending 25 years of talks and fuelling optimism that an agreement with Australia could be next.

European insiders said a pact with Canberra now ranks as Brussels’ “top priority,” with one adding it was “the next cab off the rank.”

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    3 hours ago

    I wish they’d let Canadians do the same that would solve so many problems for me

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      12 minutes ago

      I know, it’s a no brainer. And it would have the added benefit of us further decoupling from shithole USA.

    • hector@lemmy.today
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      Don’t you guys have rights in other common wealth countries? I know england at least somewhat cancelled the old system, but before at least anyone in the common wealth could travel to the UK and get some kind of work permit. I presume it was similar for other common wealth countries, like you could go to Australia and get a work permit, live there no?

  • Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world
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    They need to clear it with the prime minister first.

    [Opens Window]

    “Oi!! Mista Prioome Minista!!”

  • Uranhjort@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Huh, with the sheer volume of Aussie bartenders and waiters I’ve met here in Copenhagen I assumed there was already an open border agreement in place.

    Happy to hear they’ll be free to bring more great banter from down under.

    • Michal@programming.dev
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      They often have families in the UK and are able to get a passport that way. When UK was in EU they could then travel and work in other countries.

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        3 hours ago

        Yeah we go backpacking and do work visas a lot. It’s not just a thing done here, a few of us like to do it as well.

        I know a couple of Aussies working in Europe, ones on a travelling or working visa, the other’s mother is European entitling them to dual citizenship.

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      It is a bit funny that the EU/Australian trade deal is much better than whatever thing the UK/Australia trade deal was.

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      Makes me mad that our previous government ended our deals with France for subs. Would much rather have strong trade ties with the EU over anything related to the USA at all.

      Scomo is a disgrace for that.

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    Please dear God, anything that gets us closer to the EU and away from America

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    Great!?! Don’t the Europeans know how many ski-resort jobs will be taken away by immigrants now? (Massive /s)

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    That’s huge news for Aussies who’ve always dreamed of living and working in Europe the European Union is reportedly considering a two way mobility deal with Australia as part of long-awaited trade negotiations. If it goes ahead, Australians could be able to live and work across EU member states for up to several years without the usual job-offer requirements and strict visa limits, which is a big step beyond current short stay travel rules. In return, Europeans would get similar access to live and work in Australia. It’s still in the negotiation phase, but if finalized, this could change the way Australians think about careers and life overseas.

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    If we get enough countries over time and the EU ends up encompassing the whole world it could become the Everybody Union and that would be cool.

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    First, Eurovision, then free movement/trade…soo…ya gonna join the EU club at some point, no?

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    If anyone wants to come claim the USA as part of this, the key is under the rock to get in. We will need help removing the current and unwanted occupants, but a large number of us would gladly accept open trade and work with the EU.

    • also, it seems that some idiot landing in a boat some 250 years ago and claiming the land, doesn’t really matter. So, remove the pests and claim it as new Europe.
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    I would very much want to see the same for Canada. But Canada would have to first change it’s open border policy with the chuckle-fucks to the south. Don’t want to give those nut-jobs an easy round-about into the EU. MAGALAND --> CANADA --> EU

    • Typotyper@sh.itjust.works
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      No visa travel with the US isn’t the same as no passport. They need their passport to visit and they would be travelling to Europe on it.

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    NewsWire reports the initiative was presented as a “sweetener” to bring Canberra over the line on a free-trade agreement.

    Not against the free movement part, but I am not looking forward to relearning the words for even more of the products I grew up with. EU GI regulations are utterly stupid.

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      You mean words like Prosecco? That’s the thing mate we did it first in Europe. Also “sparkly wine” is denominated by region and method: Champagne, Cava, Prosecco, Riesling; and the nwar furure apperantly something like “Auzzy Sparkly”. Doesn’t seem so difficult to me.

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        That’s the thing mate we did it first in Europe.

        What an absurd and snobbish perspective. As if you personally had anything to do with these products’ invention.

        Regardless, I make an active judgement call to avoid products that go by the ‘real’ name whenever Australia is forced to these agreements. I never used to care where my Champagne came from, now if the label says ‘Champagne’, then I know it’s a Champagne I do not want.

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          Why would that be snobbish? The place where the wine was grown/made has a massive influence on the taste, so it really does matter. It’s also cultural appropriation to just take a super old tradition like that and give it a totally different name.

          • Affidavit@lemmy.world
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            cultural appropriation

            No. It’s called language. All food/drinks originate from one place or another; there’s no reason to call the product something different just because it is made elsewhere. The EU are the ones demanding other countries “give it a totally different name” here, otherwise misleading and anti-consumer words like ‘bubbly’ (champagne), ‘apera’ (sherry), ‘dolce rosso’ (lambrusco), ‘tawny’ (port) etc wouldn’t exist.

            It doesn’t matter anyway. Australia ‘agreed’ to change the above names years ago. Fortunately, despite the change in labelling, it hasn’t caught on. Law can’t dictate human language and people still call the products by their actual names.

        • Riddick3001@lemmy.world
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          What an absurd and snobbish perspective.

          Tell that to the French people literally living in the Champagne region. How absurd they must be.

          Dude, then dont redicule our ways of doing things Especially since you don’t even care, and probably won’t be visiting Europe soon anyway, or are you?

          Champagne I do not want.

          Then good for you.

          Australia isn’t forced into anything and neither are you. It’s just a Trade agreement which usually is beneficial to most. I do think it’s maybe time for a walkabout.

          • Affidavit@lemmy.world
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            Australia isn’t forced into anything … It’s just a Trade agreement

            The only way the EU agrees with trade agreements (e.g. lowering/removing tariffs) is if the other countries agree with their GI demands.

            I support the trade agreement in spite of the GI nonsense; I am still permitted to voice my displeasure about certain parts of it.