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Wait what, I never knew CPAC is filming immigration raids.
(Cuz CPAC said they’re all domestic terrorists)
Good luck with that. I hope I get called to jury duty for one of those cases.
does no one remember the 2000s? the whole point of calling something terrorism is to circumvent due process. no jury, not even a lawyer.
How optimistic of you, to think there will be a trial. Those camps are ultimately for us all.
They’re currently building a 30,000 bed facility in Guantanamo Bay, presumably to hold people they can’t deport, like American citizen “domestic terrorists.” Our very own CECOT.
“Domestic terrorists”
Or the ones to come where they work us as actual chattel slaves and kill those they deem subhuman.
So, filming domestic terrorism is now domestic terrorism?
kinda like how they made ag gag laws, so you can film animal abuse in plants and farms.
That’s fucked up enough, but filming inside the plants and farms could be considered inside somebody else’s private property. This seems like it could be applied to filming on a street corner or even your own home.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
“Fighting for Peace is like fucking for Virginity.” -John Lennon
You do not have an expectation of privacy in public. This is not doxing. That’s not even what doxing means.
Everything is dumb.
You assume this administration gives a shit about reason and rules.
This amounts to lowering the bar for those willing to say “if I’m going to be a terrorist then fuck it” and start shooting. It’s irresponsible and dangerous.
Any excuse to escalate is fine by them.
“Tewwowism is wen I dun lyk it :(”
–The Department of Just
iceKnowingly Doing Obviously Illegal Crap
Prosecute Flock for every camera that ever recorded ICE activity, even just a vehicle driving on the highway.
i bet flock also feeds into PALINTIR in every PD.
Create an app that takes Flock’s incredible poorly secured data and uses it to track and publicly broadcast 24/7 the location of every ICE and federal law enforcement agent you can.
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”
Terrorism has always been a convenient label for “official enemies”.
I knew this was gonna happen. “terrorism” being defined as “violence and intimidation for political means” … the authorities claiming that recording them is not only intimidation, but that intimidation is de facto the threat of violence!
“Speech is violence” is what they claim, which equates to political speech = terrorism.
It’s for this reason I believe “terrorism” in and of itself shouldn’t be a crime. But I digress.
[FTA} the Justice Department encourages federal prosecutors to press “domestic terrorism” charges against people for “doxing” law enforcement officers. […] which the Justice Department insinuates is a threatening activity used to “silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society.”
I saw this coming whenever they claimed terrorists were unlawful enemy combatants back in the early 2000s
All us smart people were just so unpatriotic! /s
Hostile actors not belonging to a state recognized by the government.
Hence why russians in UKR are soldiers but Hamas are terrorists (and not IDF)
Even by that cynical definition though, calling nonviolent actors filming police is laughable.
(The PLA guys in great britian makes sense when you consider they assaulted an army personel woth a sledge hammer while commiting their act of sabotage which the news seemed to conveniently ignore in most articles)
Since we’re renaming departments, maybe they should change the name to the Injustice Department, or the Department of Capricious Punishment or something more fitting.
And being anti fascist is terrorism now too, hmm I’m beginning to think being a “terrorist” these days is pretty cool
Time to invest in some monkey bars like it’s 2002, baybeeeee! 😎
Haha supreme court says we have a 1st amendment right to film law enforcement. Get fucked pedo lovers.
Hmm, interesting position to take. Why don’t you sit in prison for the next few years, while we test your theory at every level of the courts. In 6-9 years, if SCOTUS says you were right, you can go home victorious.
For now.
But the DOJ has pretty much unlimited resources and essentially no penalty for frivolous lawsuits.
Uh huh,like all those other times that the supreme court did “the right thing”?
Minitru but more stupid
That’s something I’ve been wondering: I’m lucky enough to never have known any other fascist regime first hand. But I know history, and the one thing that seems to distinguish the Trump regime from previous dictatorships is the sheer mediocrity and stupidity of the regime’s henchmen.
I wonder if those who have known other tyrannies first hand could tell me whether the figures of the regime they got to know were as pathetic as this one’s, and the history books somehow fail to convey the dumbassery of them.
No, don’t let them have this one. Filming police does not, and never will, make you a terrorist.
That’s straight up USA becoming a totalitarian state.
How does the American population keep accepting this development without doing anything about it?propaganda works in keeping people in complacency, and keeping some of them high enough wage they wont revolt. also creating a culture helps with that.
Things are brewing
The revolution will not be televised.
OPSEC is a thing.
Thank you for your concern, but you should probably focus on efforts in your country to move towards this kind of system.
It doesn’t matter where you are in the world right now, there are efforts being made to bring fascism there.
It doesn’t matter where you are in the world right now, there are efforts being made to bring fascism there.
Oh yes, that threat is becoming more and more real, but the propaganda is originating from Russia and succeeded in USA, and USA is where it needs to be stopped, because it can still be stopped by democratic means. And because it is the American efforts that are more likely to succeed in EU.
But we should absolutely do to Russia what they’ve been doing to EU, UK, USA to amputate the west and NATO. But hopefully the sanctions from Ukraine on Russia will be working soon. So the Russian federation will collapse like the Soviet Union did.I don’t think The Trump and his gang of trillionaires will succeed in EU, but you are 100% right that we need to be careful.
But it would be sad if we lose USA entirely to this Russian bullshit, and it’s weird why so many of the richest people in USA are so willing to give up their own country?
Trump, Vance, Thiel, Musk, Ellis, Zuckerberg are all literally traitors to USA, humanity, democracy and decency.
I would love to see the American population take them all down.But it would be sad if we lose USA entirely to this Russian bullshit
From the bottom of my heart: Thank you.
So many people are viewing this crisis from afar as some sort of sardonic entertainment, even cheering for the whole country to go down along with everyone in it, because of what one incredibly loud and rich minority is doing to the country and her neighbors.
They don’t understand what that would do to a lot of damn good and decent people, and that attitude isn’t helping anything. They don’t understand threats just like this one are testing the fences in their very own backyard, looking for a single weakness to throw all their fundamental institutions into disarray.
We are still trying to stop this as reasonably as we can. We’re still trying to pressure our remaining sane lawmakers to do the right thing. We’re still pushing back while struggling to pay our friggin bills because, as it turns out, “full-time revolutionary” is a very limited-opportunity career path.
We’re trying to do this cleverly and safely, because if the excuse to enact “martial law” hits, we’re all in very real danger of state violence where nobody will be able to speak up ever again.
A lot needs to change, and it needs to change drastically, but just because we aren’t sandbagging at the Capitol doesn’t mean we aren’t fighting.
Thank you for at least understanding and feeling the loss of what this is doing to very real, very good people. I appreciate you dearly.
I wish you the best of luck.
Americans, like Russians, have been trained to be indifferent to politics and not get involved. It’s the result of decades of government not serving the people and showing them that their only power is to bring trouble upon themselves.
That is at the very least true in many cases. I hope Americans can overcome it.
Personally if there was something I alone could do to end this that doesn’t:
- Place my family in danger
- Require I die
- Has 100% chance of success
I’d be all-in in a heartbeat. The problem is each of my requirements has risk that fluctuates, and all three of them have never been worth-it enough at the same time.
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Nobody said anything about putting yourself in danger.
Even peacefully protesting certain subjects is becoming dangerous. Wake up. We need strength in numbers and they be spent 40 years convincing us all that we’re “others”. It’s gonna take an extremely unifying event that affects everyone.
Closest thing in so far is the Epstein files.
Even peacefully protesting certain subjects is becoming dangerous.
So maybe you should all have started earlier? It’s not like this development was hard to spot already a few days into this administration.
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Wow the amount of butthurt people here who can’t stand to hear the truth is insane! 🤣
It’s not like it’s something I’m saying in hindsight, feel free to go back in my history and see what I wrote around the time Trump was inaugurated!
I predicted exactly that nothing would happen, because a majority of the American people was actually OK with the shit Trump was about to pull. Or at least OK/stupid enough to not be likely to do anything about it.
Every expert worth his/her salt warned before Trump was elected, that this second time would be way worse than the first, because the reigns are off. And that’s EXACTLY what we see now. Including destroying affordable healthcare which was VERY CLEARLY warned about that he would!!!
Don’t try to claim you didn’t know already back in the beginning of the year. Because if you didn’t, it’s only because you kept yourself willingly ignorant.
Please give examples of what one person could do, that actually makes a change.
Organize a more robust civil society outside of religious institutions or institutions captured by oligarchs. This is the weak spot of the USA, and as long as it goes neglected, political change will always eventually skew back towards authoritarianism.
So, you might ask, how am I supposed to do that? Well it really really depends on who and where you are. Do you have money? Do you have time? Are you educated in a certain way? What is your skillset? Answer those questions and old farts like me can give you the benefit of experience.
Basically, be less of a hero individualist expecting measurable change with your name attached, and more in service of the community where you say we did that, and make pressure for change from there. You will have a lot of choices about how to personally make a difference from there.
tl;dr: you are asking the wrong people, and expecting the wrong results
Boycotts
Boycott what exactly?
The people and businesses who fund the political candidates, capitulate, or otherwise support facism. Stop buying from Walmart, target, home Depot, Amazon, Tesla, u-line, etc. buy things second hand and pay with cash. Stop using traditional social media (already here) It doesn’t have to be perfect, but do your best to be mindful of who you’re buying from.
That only works if everone does it.
Source: I’ve been too broke to buy shit for 2 or 3 years and the country is still in the toilet.
Oh for fucks sake, I’m not talking individuals here. You are making a strawman argument.
You need to seek out others who also want to do something, and there is plenty of opportunity for that with todays social media. Then you plan together what would be a good thing to do locally for your area.If others are doing something too, and their approach is more successful, you join them.
You collect a group, and do maybe 1 hour protests once a week to begin with, get peoples attention, and try to get more to join.
AFAIK that’s just about how grassroots movements get started.
Also you’ve had almost a year to figure something out now, how lame is it of you to ask this question now?Its not in the news, but we’re already doing what you mentioned. What else do we do?
They just want to whine about the US, they have no actual suggestions with merit and keep trying to dismiss any and all evidence that people are actually doing things.
If they were talking about Ukraine, I’d assume they’re a Russian bot.
Build a more secular, caring, educated, egalitarian society? Row together with others to move the whole boat.
Not a specious statement. People saying ‘what am I supposed to do?’ often seem to think they can put republicans out of office and the problem is solved. USA is culturally divided and class stratified, and the non-commercial sectors are under repression.
There is only so much one person can do, and I absolutely do not blame those Americans that actually voted against Trump, and those who are actively protesting.
It’s the remaining 90+% that are the problem.
At least the majority seems to be voting Democrat now, but it’s far from a sure thing there will be another presidential election.PS:
I have no idea why you got a downvote?I disagree that 90% of americans aren’t doing anything. I see protests literally every day, so I don’t know what you’re on about.
Double post due to lemmy bug.
Does this glib response mean you have more contempt than suggestions? It’s fine if so, but if not we’d love your advice
What specific advice would you like? ‘What should I do’ isn’t answerable.
Suggestions aren’t necessary, the will to make an effort is what is lacking, not opportunities to oppose the administration.
Read my other posts for suggestions, and the obvious simple explanation of how grassroots movements work.Yeah being Navalny sounds really fun, thanks
That is hyperbolic for the USA, even if there are some risks. Maybe if you have a green card find back lines tasks instead of front lines. Seasoned activists who are part of the event can advise on specific tactics and strategies for a safe protest. Listen to them first.
Yes because people are sent to prison for protesting, and in American prisons you die of polonium poisoning after a few months. /s
Talk about a moronic straw man!!moronic straw man
Lol. Pot meet kettle.
Becoming?
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Yes, they are about half way there. There are still legal options to oppose the administration.
When opposition needs to be classified as legal, you’re losing.
Immigration raids are domestic terrorism themselves
