Of the total area that is used by humans (Agriculture, Urban and Built-up Land),

  • urban and built-up land is 1m km²,
  • agriculture is 48m km²,

so agriculture is 48 of 49 millions km² used, that’s 98%. The remaining 2% are all streets and housing and other infrastructure together.

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    If some of the land used for pastures and for growing animal feed were used to grow food directly for humans, and the rest were rewilded, human land use would be massively lower.

    Ban animal farming. It’s as vile as genocide and quite similar to it, and it wastes lots of our resources and damages the environment.

    Thanks for coming to my TED talk

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      Land use would be lower if we reduced livestock, but likely not massively. Lots of grazing land isn’t suitable for farming, letting it go wild would also require a massive effort to reintroduce natural grazing animals, which would likely need active management. There’s also the fact most of our crops would need to change to optimize for human consumption, and humans aren’t as efficient at consuming those calories as livestock. Even after transitioning crops there’s going to be a significant amount that isn’t processable by humans that would sustain some amount of livestock.

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        Land use would be lower if we reduced livestock, but likely not massively. Lots of grazing land isn’t suitable for farming, letting it go wild would also require a massive effort to reintroduce natural grazing animals, which would likely need active management.

        16% of the current farmland gives us around 75% of our diets. That means we only need around 21% for a 100% plant based diet. This also means we can free up 75% of animal land. I sure we can easily find that 5% in that whole 80%, don’t you think?

        There’s also the fact most of our crops would need to change to optimize for human consumption, and humans aren’t as efficient at consuming those calories as livestock.

        This is incorrect.

        There’s a few diseases and allergies though where this becomes a thing. But even in such cases meat can be avoided.

        Even after transitioning crops there’s going to be a significant amount that isn’t processable by humans that would sustain some amount of livestock.

        This could be an argument if it was forced overnight but that would never happen. Transitioning towards a plant based society is not something that can happen overnight and will definitely take time. Phasing it out happens naturally.

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        grazing land is barely even a consideration in this calculation. Most of the land use of animal agriculture is for growing their feed, such as soy, corn, alfalfa

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        Lots of grazing land isn’t suitable for farming,

        Yeah no. Meat animals can only be raised on land which can grow crops.

        The grazing land in Africa and the middle east is principally used for textiles like wool and cashmere.

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      Thanks for ignoring all the nuances of marginal land management, tell me more about how you have no experience in the sector? Jesus people from the states think they know fucking everything

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        German here, please go ahead and explain how animal farming isn’t the worst shit.

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          It can make use of marginal land, otherwise unusable for producing food, to produce food. Yknow, the stuff we eat? To stay alive? I personally think the worst shit is cage farming, which is what I’m guessing comes to mind for you?

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              Maybe if you mean factory farming when you say farming, you should clarify that when you say ‘we should stop all farming’ because responsible farming is completely possible, you just don’t want to admit it

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                Oh I think we should stop all animal farming too, because it is reprehensible. And so-called “responsible farming” is not nearly possible at a scale to meet humanity’s demand for meat. It could only be a luxury for the wealthy, which I would also object to.

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            While technically true, the majority of animal farming is “factory farming” such as chickens and all cattle that is finished on grain.

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              I live in New Zealand, where ‘farming’ means a very different thing to me than it does you. Sorry we won’t see eye to eye on this.