• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    Remember, this is what they are doing publicly, right out in the open.

    We have a black budget system where rule of law doesn’t matter… AI is already killing people, controlling warbots, and more. If we are very, very lucky, we’ll know the “truth” in 50 years or so.

    Do you know what the CIA did after FOIA became a problem? They burned the vast majority of records, with the tidbits they “missed” being truly horrifying. I personally think it was a message, the message being “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here”.

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    When the law no longer pretends to serve the people, it loses a big part of it’s social power.

    Many people in power today don’t seem to really understand the nature of power.

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        This isn’t even a state’s rights issue. Executive orders are just memos for the federal executive branch, not laws or decrees or anything that has any weight beyond ‘this is how we will enforce the laws already passed’.

        The states should just say ‘that isn’t how executive orders work’ instead of pretending that there is some federal vs state issue.

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          States don’t need to say anything. The executive order is weightless. State law trumps executive orders automatically. The states will just go on with life, their laws are still laws.

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            They should absolutely speak up and say that the order means nothing to the states. Silence is consent when the news is acting like it means something.

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      Not even remotely within the prevue of an EO. Its a show so that he can rail against those states insolence.

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    Isn’t it just a bit suspicious that the industry is preemptively asking for deregulation? It’s like they know they’re going to do some shady shit and want to make sure no pesky laws get in the way.

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      Everything about the llm industry is suspicious and predatory. They’re doing something that is not only unpopular, it’s not just going to put people out of work. People are doing to die. And not in the vague economic sense of “40k extra deaths per point drop in the stock market” sense. I mean in the direct “AI directly caused these deaths and there’s no other way to look at it” sense. I’m not sure how, when, or why. But I am sure that the people pushing LLMs the way they are do. And they’re trying to establish a legal protection for when that happens.

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        It’s already driven multiple people to panic attacks, one woman to committing herself out of fear of a psychotic break, and several people to suicide and at least one murder.

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          Listen. I know. I know how it sounds.

          I promise I’m not chronically online. LLMs are the most current end result of a predatory VC industry that has not let ethics slow it down in the past. Why would ethics slow them down now?

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            Bro they’re just pocketing investor cash by hyping the latest tech snakeoil on a level never before seen.

            Were NFTs going to kill people too? 🙄

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              I don’t think the OP is saying we’ll have LLM Terminators walking around saying, “I will be back!” while mowing down people.

              But deaths attributed to LLMs have already started:

              Sure, this seems to be just playing on existing mentally ill people, so let’s ignore them for now.

              What about “AI” pointing the gun and having someone else pull the trigger?

              What happens when a trigger happy cop gets a dangerous sounding alert and decides to go in guns blazing?

              I don’t believe for a minute that the military isn’t looking at weaponizing this detection by also having AI “decide” if it should attack.

              Then there’s the AI in robo taxis - surely those are 100% accurate. Well they had better be - car deaths are the the highest cause of accidental deaths in the US.

              I could go on about how AI hallucinating in medical notes taken by copilot could lead to improper prescriptions, or how AI hallucinating could do things like tell people to put glue on pizza.

              I mean, I guess some outcomes are just injury not death so…

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    But… “states’ rights!”

    I keep waiting for Republicans to revolt, but then I remember they’re Republicans.

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    So that title is technically false. Executive Orders apply to the operation of the federal government only, Trump has not blocked anything.

    Trump signed an order which claims to be blocking. Trump attempted blocking.

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    The “states rights” people will just ignore this PR move like they do with everything else he does.