As a Canadian, I won’t be travelling to the Republic of Gilead anytime soon. That country is becoming worse by the minute.
And since Americans think I’m Latino (I’m not), I don’t want to be shipped to El Salvador.
shipped to El Salvador.
I’m white as hell, but with the comments I make on the orange clown I’ll be shot into orbit in nothing more than a speedo (only because nudity is for the us a no ! no !! no !!! no !!! no !!! no way)
I’m thinking of visiting Montreal for beer. Crossing North from Vermont… y’all gonna kick my ass before I can spend that glorious USD $$ ?
You seem to confuse Canadians for Americans.
As a fellow American, we really don’t need any help looking bad at the moment, so you can stop now.
Uhhhh, it’s more than their social media.
The new proposal would make it “mandatory” for ESTA applicants to provide US authorities with access to five years of their social media activity on platforms such as Instagram, TikTok and X.
Visitors will also be required to provide information on what US authorities dub “high-value data fields,” meaning all of their phone numbers over the past five years and all of their e-mail addresses over the past 10. Moreover, they will be forced to provide personal details on family members as well as provide their own biometric data.
The proposal was published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, meaning that it will be open for public comment for 60 days, at which point it will become law unless challenged in court.
Checks SimpleLogin account… 230 email aliases to date… gg, I might need a few more pages to note all of those.
Plus, how tf are they going to know if you’re telling them about everything? This will just make people not visit.
For real, there really is no way for them to know for sure.
Also, I just remembered Apple has throwaway emails built in now, nobody will think to list those. So do you just go to jail straight away if you miss listing one of those, because you lied on a federal form?
So do you just go to jail straight away if you miss listing one of those, because you lied on a federal form?
Unfortunately, that probably depends on what color you are. They have taken a few whities, but that was probably just for show.
Our country isn’t really safe to visit right now, please come back if/when we’re better. Most Americans are sorry about this.
Really hope for a positive outcome. I would love to go visit my happy place on the Oregon coast again some day!
Nah I don’t believe so, the vast majority of the people doesn’t really care about privacy at all and they will gladly provide all the “required” information just to enter in the country. I guess they already know a lot of information about you (google account, biometric data in phones, GPS location, frecuent used apps…) and they just want you to provide even more information and tag you as an danger if you don’t answer exactly what they know about you.
230 email aliases to date
That looks suspicious and a lot of work, let’s just send you to and ICE detention facility until we decide what to do with you.
Can’t argue with that logic. I’ll report to my nearest border crossing if/when this passes to make things easier for everyone.
The Fourth Reich thanks you for your understanding!
The EU is already using that. Pick some other Reich that is still free.
What if you’re not a 15-year-old girl and therefore don’t have TikTok and Instagram are they going to arrest you? What a truly stupid country.
I was wondering why this ‘five years’ thing popped up now, because I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of it long ago.
The US was known for ages to be very shady at the borders, like circa fifteen years ago when they detained a security researcher who was travelling to a conference to tell about yet another of NSA’s shenanigans: they held him for hours, searched through his devices, and in the end denied entry.
Emails? Wtf?
I think that’s objectively worse than North Korea, they only check what you have with you as far as I’m aware
This is a shame honestly. I’ve just remembered about Lucas’ narrative art museum.
Oh, man. Anyone else remember how Republicans used to threaten to exercise their 2A rights in response to filling out a basic census report?
Yeah. I miss the days when those folks were considered the standard for “Conservative values”. They were practically antifa back then.
Turns out the guns were never about defending themselves against an authoritarian government.
Nothing makes them talk about gun control faster than minorities arming.
Current contents of the shell don’t say much about past contents of it.
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Mine are. ICE just isn’t in my area yet.
Do not visit the US
literally, I let my VISA expire and it was hard because I live on the frontier so I’ll miss out on a lot of things but it is not worth it
last time I needed to cross the border I was detained for an extra hour (not counting the queue) just because I didn’t cross during the pandemic
fuck the US, fuck fascism
I still remember a trip I took with my parents to Vancouver and Seattle. We are from Brazil.
The difference was night and day, especially the infrastructure, landscape, and the appearance of the people who worked there. Seattle felt much more somber and gray.
The only ones who seemed overtly happy were the waitresses, but since these jobs in the U.S. rely heavily on tips, it felt more like forced role-play to get extra money compared to the more down-to-earth Canadian customer service.
If the Dems aren’t running on abolishing ICE and completely dismantling the police state, now, they’re setting up to throw the 2028 election.
I hate to say it but they likely won’t. Establishment democrats are complicit.
AOC is gonna need a big mop.
So are their voters.
Doubtful. The Democrats we have run on the platform of keep everything exactly the same. No changes, we’re all good here. No notes.
Which strangely enough sounds exactly like what a conservative stance actually is. The “conservatives” are the extremists now and them dems are spineless snails.*
- also known as snails.
Non-spineless snails exist, checkmate.
I don’t know what I was expecting but it wasn’t that. Kinda disappointed it wasn’t a Rick Roll.
It’ll be “it’s the economy stupid”.
Yeah, about that…
They’re gonna Ratchet Effect the shit out this!
So does the US just want to totally kill its tourist industry because that seems to be the objective.
Unfortunatel I feel like most people will complain about this and visit anyway. I’d be very happy to be wrong about this though.
Only ignorant people. I had dreams of visiting and maybe doing a road trip, but under Trump I’m definitely not going there voluntarily. Even if my employer wants me to go there on business I’m refusing. I’d rather find another job than cross the US border.
I’ve recently had a workshop with teams coming from different parts of Europe and North America.
The USA was an option as a location. Needless to say, I wasn’t hot about it, and probably many others as well, so Eastern Europe was chosen instead.
Eastern Europe was chosen instead
oof
I really wanted to cycle across America. The states are so close and different compared to Australia. I doubt I’ll get the chance now.
Well I used to go to Vegas quite often for conferences and now that’s stopped because apparently no one else wants to go either. I think they are having it in Leeds this year, which is quite the downgrade let me tell you.
Better food though.
I think maybe they’re intentionally isolating themselves?
Well, that’s definitelly going to solve the fall in Tourism problem in the US /s
Always wanted to see a modern country becoming dystopian though. Could be a big hit on tripadvisor. Once a beacon for freedom in the western world, the US decided it really liked how North Korea is treating its people and decided to do the same using its love affair with big tech psychos like Sam Altman and Elon Musk.
“Enjoy the once in century experience of empire collapse from the first row, go sightseeing to ‘once grand but now little more than decrepit and fast fading façades’ and return home with a warm ‘at least it’s not us’ feeling (return trip might be from El Salvador) unlike the poor sods who live in the place”
Lol we have a winner here :)
Russians are visiting China visa free and vacation in North Korea no problem. So, this is worse.
So what happens when you truthfully state “I don’t use social media”? Or use any that are mainstream?
Seems like a dumb time to me.
Depends on the officer you’re dealing with. There’s multiple stories, from before Trump ever took office, of people being detained for up to a day for saying this or refusing to grant access to their phone. I can only imagine it’s worse now.
You have to prove that you don’t have accounts with the usual suspects. So, to prove a negative. And that obviously makes you suspicious. Oh, and Lemmy would be considered to be social media.
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it’s so tiring to watch people just not realize the natural progression to all of this, like how can you not see it’s gonna be YOU next in a few years when you post on facebook about how you’re disappointed about supreme leader trump’s tax policy and the secret police show up at your door
Americans are incapable of thinking that far ahead. They will literally scoff at any foresight, like the future is unknowable.
I’m an American but alright
Me too 😭
My neighbors heads are firmly wedged all the way up their asses. These old fools act like everything is just fine because the boots aren’t on their necks yet.
they are kept complacent, because they still have a job that pays moderate or well off where they live off of, plus the propaganda of the media keeping them mostly ignorant.
Trying to isolate the country from what used to be our allies, then take away all our rights and turn this degrading shithole into North Korea where the citizens are law bound to kiss their “leaders” ass and pretend it doesn’t fucking stink.
Whether or not the states are being puppeted by Russia holding cards in the form of blackmail, this is exactly the kind of thing they would do to weaken the states
its is the foundation of geopolitics that russia uses.
krasnov is adhering to PUTINS wishes.
It’s amazing how much the US doesn’t want you to go there, even if it’s just to visit.
Despite all the mediocrity, there are some things to see there, but if that’s the authorities’ attitude (and this here is not the first example of it), yeah, I think I’ll skip.
they really don’t seem to realize there’s an entire world of places out there to see…
It’s also to keep people in.
People, PLEASE stop coming to America. The government doesn’t want you here. Also, it’s not safe at all.
If the earning reports of hotel REITs are anything to go by that is exactly what’s happening.
Make Murica Great Again or something…
Lol, what tourists
People born in the 90s:
At age 10: I want to move to USA to live there!
At age 30: Traveling to USA seems to be too dangerous. I’ll pass.
Haha this was me, except even around age 20, when I moved to the UK, I was thinking I might want to move to the USA later in life. But the more I’ve learned about the country since, the less I’d want to live there. The gun mania, the religion mania, the actual political options being all squeezed into the centre-to-far-right spectrum all sound nightmarish. (Tbh we’re kinda having that last issue in the UK too, but to a less extreme degree.)
Don’t forget no minimum paid leave, no parental leave, crazy healthcare.
True! How could I have forgotten!
That’s me. Wanted to move there because software engineer. Now I’m 30 and fuck no. Major changes would need to happen and even then I’m not sure I’d feel safe. It’s not the damn shootings that bother me even, it’s that so many people support Trump and ICE. Those people will still be around even when Trump is gone. Meaning at any time the US could elect a less incompetent version of Trump.
Ok, idea, The rest of the world demands access to 5 years of US citizens social media to enter their countries. Deny Nazi/Fash/Maga from leaving the US.
Most maga can’t afford to leave the country much less their own state.
while true, there are a boat load of wealthy republicans that would NOT pass a social media check
Indubitably.
I finally got to use that word, thank you good sir.
Nah fuck that. The non-Nazis can come over, and we’ll have a barbie 🇺🇸🇦🇺🦐🍻
Good idea. Let’s just do what the fascists are doing. That’ll show them!
For the rest of the world it’s a smart idea, who would want self proclaimed domestic terrorists into their country?
I feel deeply sorry for the poor EU agent who has to sift through the depravity that likely exists on your average MAGA twat’s phone. You hear about those police staff members who have to view all the CSAM to investigate it and how it traumatises them, this would be the next tier down
It’s probably just as bad because we see more Republicans get outed as kid diddlers than anyone else.
I mean, we’ve tried not reciprocating.
They literally don’t get anything until it’s happening to them, and the US left NEVER makees it happen to them.
A lot of Americans on the right famiously doesnt own a passport and doesn’t leave the country. You are more or less playing into their hand…
I’m more worried about the politicians :)
A lot of Americans on the right famiously doesnt own a passport and doesn’t leave the country.
But why would you leave the Greatest Country on Earth™?
They get angry if someone else is having buttsex witin the privacy of their own house and are of the same gender.
They get angry if someone else has any autonomy over their own body.
They get angry if someone with slightly different color skin or speaks slightly differently is pulling a paycheck doing a job they wouldn’t do and looking after their own family. Basically existing.
You say that as if republicans have suddenly developed a critical thinking ability and wouldn’t simply give into ego to be angry at the principle.
yeah, because tourism is doing so well now, we need more reasons to fuck over the industry
you know its bad when they dont report how tourism is doing in places like florida, texas. its 1-2 punch , anti-immigration policies has probably affected them severely, and the lack of tourism dollars to those welfare states.
No idea about Texas. Other than SXSW, I’m not aware of their tourism.
But for FL, Disney didn’t bend the knee hard enough. That’s a feature.
