I was spell checking myself and the auto-generated summary of results told me that the phrase didn’t exist.

  • SpikesOtherDog@ani.socialOP
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    3 hours ago

    This is what I get, no punctuation.

    I wonder if we get different answers due to our history, location, and whatever seed is being used.

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    Yeah i was looking up who played “ned kelly” in ghosts au series and it kept telliing me about the actress who played eileen.

    Still better than what happens if you punch in “who played ned kelly ghosts au”

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    For sure. I was muzzy from waking up and wasn’t sure if it was ‘in force’, en-force, or en force. Pretty sure it is French en force which probably translates directly to in force, but I can’t seem to coerce Google search to acknowledge that the phrase exists outside of a band name. If I put it on quotes, the auto summary seems to pick up on it, but still no results. In fact, search seems to be ignoring the quotes completely.

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      11 hours ago

      Google search has been ignoring quotes and verbatim for several years. It also seems to try to interpret what you typed, then search for that interpretation. If you want something that’s slightly obscure, but similar sounding to something popular, you have no chance of ever finding it with Google. I’ve had to switch search engines to start finding things again.

      15+ years ago I used to be able to find anything I wanted using Google search with 3 or fewer words. I miss those days.

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            6 hours ago

            Nay nay - the and (+) operator worked perfectly for searching for [search term] and only showing results that included [AND other search term].

            If it didn’t have the other search term it wouldn’t appear. Brilliant.

            Until . . .

            *scary music*

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              sorry perhaps I misunderstood… I’m thinking of older systems which actually used the AND keyword, as opposed to Google which used + to mean “this word must appear in the search results”.

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      7 hours ago

      Sorry but what are you talking about? It’s factually wrong, it has nothing to do with context, and the period makes zero difference to the meaning of the AI’s summary.

      “En force” has nothing to do with the word enforce, and is a common English phrase. English borrows loads of phrases from other languages. “En bloc” is another example, as is “crème de la crème” (with or without the accents); all are French phrases which are used routinely in English and are now parts of the language. The same happens in the opposite direction - “le weekend” being an example in French; perhaps controversial example to French speakers but that is the nature of language.

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        6 hours ago

        You replied to an LLM, so of course it’s talking out of its ass. Probably someone trying to kill the Fediverse.

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        Is it a common English phrase? I can’t find it in any English dictionary, and the wiktionary page has no listing for it under English, only in French. On the other hand the phrase “en masse” with a similar meaning shows up in dictionaries and the wiktionary page lists it under English.

        Unless it’s quite a recent borrowing I’m thinking OP got the two mixed up, or is maybe from an area with enough French speakers that it seems common.

        https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en_masse

        https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en_force

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        If you type in En force, you get the correct answer. If you type in En-force, it assumes you made an error and wanted to type enforce and not en force.

        It has no context to go on, but it is silly that the normal google algo understands but Gemini doesn’t. I’m fairly certain it’s because the summary uses different links then what is actually given by the regular search algo (I think it rewrites your query as well).

        I don’t like the summary above google, I’m not defending it but just explaining where the error stems from and what the user meant.

        Edit: it’s a bot lol, yes the period makes no sense. I glossed over his reply and thought he was making the same point as a comment below.