I’m not really sure what you want as a source. The only civilizations in human history that developed beyond the gens/clan/tribe had some kind of religious law, so there’s numerous field examples of this phenomenon. I supposed it could just be a coincidence that it happened over and over, and that there aren’t counterexamples? That actually seems like the more extraordinary claim.
This is all value neutral, by the way. I am not saying religion, or slavery, or feudalism, or capitalism are good. I’m only saying that they were stages of historical development that lead us to this point. If history could develop a different way, there’s no way to really test for it. Maybe we’ll find aliens some day that never went through a religious phase of historical development?
humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years before recorded history; I think your hypothesis really applies to the previous 4000 years, and not so much on the lack of counterexamples.
Yes, and it was the invention of religion in the previous 4000 years that allowed humans really take off as a planetary species. That only reinforces my point - hundreds of thousands of years as hunter gatherers with very little change, then only a few thousand years later and we’ve basically conquered the world. Religion doesn’t have to be real to be a useful tool for organizing civilization.
It’s all made up, but it was a useful fiction when we were still in the nascent stages of historical development.
I think we got civilization despite religion. Religion has been fighting progress all along.
Religion was how we organized civilization beyond blood relations. Religious law was the first law.
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Just because it was the first laws/human organization, doesn’t mean it has a place in today’s society.
I’m not really sure what you want as a source. The only civilizations in human history that developed beyond the gens/clan/tribe had some kind of religious law, so there’s numerous field examples of this phenomenon. I supposed it could just be a coincidence that it happened over and over, and that there aren’t counterexamples? That actually seems like the more extraordinary claim.
This is all value neutral, by the way. I am not saying religion, or slavery, or feudalism, or capitalism are good. I’m only saying that they were stages of historical development that lead us to this point. If history could develop a different way, there’s no way to really test for it. Maybe we’ll find aliens some day that never went through a religious phase of historical development?
humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years before recorded history; I think your hypothesis really applies to the previous 4000 years, and not so much on the lack of counterexamples.
it’s all skycake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h1FO8V_3w
Yes, and it was the invention of religion in the previous 4000 years that allowed humans really take off as a planetary species. That only reinforces my point - hundreds of thousands of years as hunter gatherers with very little change, then only a few thousand years later and we’ve basically conquered the world. Religion doesn’t have to be real to be a useful tool for organizing civilization.
It’s all made up, but it was a useful fiction when we were still in the nascent stages of historical development.
you’re welcome to your beliefs but we don’t have examples of civilizations that failed because they lacked organized religion. so I’m dubious.