Concerns over AI surveillance in schools are intensifying after armed officers swarmed a 16-year-old student outside Kenwood High School in Baltimore when an AI gun detection system falsely flagged a Doritos bag as a firearm.
Allen was handcuffed at gunpoint. Police later showed him the AI-captured image that triggered the alert. The crumpled Doritos bag in his pocket had been mistaken for a gun.
I like how it goes from student traumatic relation where he’s scared about his life
“It was like eight cop cars that came pulling up for us,” Allen told WBAL-TV 11 News. “They started walking toward me with guns, talking about ‘Get on the ground,’ and I was like, ‘What?’”
“They made me get on my knees, put my hands behind my back, and cuff me. Then they searched me and found nothing,” he said.
“It was mainly like, am I gonna die? Are they going to kill me? “They showed me the picture, said that looks like a gun, I said, ‘no, it’s chips.’”
to the principal gaslighting whole situation like nothing happened, they just wanted to help him (not)die
“We understand how upsetting this was for the individual that was searched as well as the other students who witnessed the incident,” the principal wrote.
Hey, it could’ve been really bad publicity for the principal. Gotta feel for the poor guy, reputation could’ve been tainted for a few months. In all seriousness, a lot of school administrators seem to be the least empathetic or qualified people to be in charge of a school.
Seriously ? Kid should go to private psychiatrist that should give an opinion and after that they should sue principal, school, police and city over big money. If it was rich kid whole city will be apologizing.
They should sue, I agree.
Omnilert later admitted the incident was a “false positive” but claimed the system “functioned as intended”
“yeah this time it wasn’t a gun, but the kid is black for Christ’s sake, what did you expect us to do? So obviously its functioning as intended.”
This is pretty much my takeaway as well
It successfully got a false positive that resulted in a black kid getting swarmed by police. Job well done, amirite?
The purpose of a system is what it does, indeed.
Fuck my life. Imagine if they just like, had a real person review the image before they deployed cops to draw down on him? Is that crazy?
Reaction time is a factor in a case like this. All the situation required was a cop walking up and talking to him, hand casually (heh) on pistol.
“Hey man, let me talk to you. School camera system thinks you have a gun and I gotta check.”
Say the kid did having a gun and was looking to use it, no one, let alone a 16-yo, is going to fumble fuck a gun out of his pocket before a cop can draw down on him. I wouldn’t bank on clearing a properly holstered and concealed pistol in this case. Maybe with some serious practice? Also, I am not a high school kid.
Most cops carry Glocks, so no safety to hassle with. Don’t know what retention system they now favor, but modern holsters allow the user to draw without thinking about releasing the weapon. I see zero risk in this approach.
People ready to start a shooting aren’t as approachable as you make it seem. Complicated solution but I don’t think your solution would work most times.
Say the kid did having a gun and was looking to use it, no one, let alone a 16-yo, is going to fumble fuck a gun out of his pocket before a cop can draw down on him
That’s extremely naive.
Nevermind the fact that he doesn’t have to. Guns don’t work like they do in the movies. When you shoot someone they don’t instantly drop dead.
Sometimes, unlike the movies, they do drop dead, instantly. Watching a shooting video is worse than Hollywood because people often fall like a cut puppet, no drama, don’t even fall over, straight down, horrific. The first cowboy movies depicted taking a bullet like that but audiences didn’t think it was realistic. 🤷🏻
Then there’s the kid that shot a YouTuber bullying him at the mall. Hit the big kid in the gut with a .380 (probably) at point blank range, dude just walked off, wasn’t even dripping.
As always, ballistics are weird and it “just depends”. But if a man with a 9mm, at point blank range, has the drop on you, think you could take the bullet, continue pulling a pistol out of your pocket and into action? As that man continues pumping bullets into you (as cops are trained to do)?
Again, I practice and I could not clear my concealed holster before that cop was hitting me. Aside from being stupidly unsafe, I won’t carry without a proper holster because I can’t get even my smallest guns out of my jeans in a hurry.
And no, I’m not going off Hollywood. I have dozens of guns, shoot 2-3 times a week at my own range, using a wide variety of weapons. I learn much from GunTubers, test for myself.
Sometimes. Not usually. Nor is it something a police officer is or should stake their life on.
But if a man with a 9mm, at point blank range, has the drop on you, think you could take the bullet, continue pulling a pistol out of your pocket and into action?
Can and do, all the time. (Assuming you mean the royal you).
I learn much from GunTubers, test for myself.
How many times have you tested being shot?
It’s nacho gun.
The Oligarchy - now constructing sci-fi nightmares.
I’ve been quoting that line (and the scene has been playing in my head) for months!
I mean AI is a problem, but this wasn’t just AI- this was racist cops
Don’t worry guys, they’re only putting these AI cameras in literally every city and doing it in shady ways without anyone knowing. And false flags like this happen very frequently.
A bag of doritos is a gun when its owner is POC
Fucked-up-ness and the kid’s trauma aside, “Most swatted by clankers for chips” will make a pretty good superlative in the yearbook
When we put a machine that has an unnaceptable error rate, decide who is guilty automatically, and then there is no longer human accountability in that system.
It will soon be ON YOU to know if you are innocent or not, and to shoot back if the death squad was sent after you in error.
Sometime soon, it’ll be actual robots sent instead of police officers, I’m sure that’ll go well
Jesus fucking Christ, dude.
land of the free 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
AI overlords gettin desperate for more chips
Have you seen the price of fucking chips lately? You’d be getting desperate too!
those are ninja throwing stars - AI
