Used to hate Arizona quite a bit because it felt super bougie and expensive for what’s essentially just a regular ice tea. Developed a taste for it over the years and like it quite a bit nowadays because it’s partly sweetened with stevia which makes it taste very pleasantly. Quite unfortunate that most of the flavours sold here aren’t vegan because they insist on 0,1% of honey in the ingredients
Stevia can die in a fire. Some people can limit their sugar intake to healthy levels. Make something either diet or not. I dislike the taste of all artificial sweeteners, and its in regular too now with most drinks. With artificial sweeteners (but maybe not stevia) wrecking your gut biome and other problems, they’ve just added something unhealthy to drinks. A drink that would normally be OK to drink once in a while.
I’m not an expert on artificial sweeteners, but as far as I know, they’re to be consumed in moderate amounts just like sugars are. And from what I’ve heard, stevia is among the better sweeteners compared to something like aspartame or maybe even sucralose. The mixing of sugar and a sweetener is not ideal, I think that’s true.
I’ll gladly be proven otherwise - don’t know enough about them tbh
It’s a lack of human imagination to think that animals without eyebrows can’t suffer.
There are parts of (industrial) beekeeping that aren’t ethical. It’s up to people themselves to decide if they are comfortable with that.
For example outcompeting other native pollinators, culling entire hives by drowning or gassing is a thing, clipping the wings of the queen to prevent swarming, increased risk of disease due to lower nutritional value of sugar water
Don’t worry, they’ll be just as hypocritical as any other virtue-signaling group. Bees make honey, honey bad. But they’ll act like pollenators aren’t needed for crops or something. Or ignore that beekeepers will take their hives out to farms to pollinate various crops, like avocado. Or that bees seem to, on some level, understand that they have a great deal going. They’re not trapped in the hives; they could leave at anytime but don’t. And their honey production is higher than that of wild bees. And they have a higher survival rate because the beekeeper ensures they’re safe from predators, or from the elements, and from disease. Every beekeeper I’ve ever seen absolutely love their bees.
But the fun part, is not all vegans think like this. Because it’s a “contentious” topic among them. For one, why does anyone care what anyone eats? Like, as long as it’s not cannibalism, I don’t give a shit. But vegans, from what I gather, will “rank” themselves to other vegans to see who’s more vegan than the other. It really reminds me of the “church ladies”. The type who judge you for not being churchy enough, who brag about how much church they go to, how much they “do for the church”, a “higher than thou” mentality. Some vegans are closer to vegetarians, with just additional restrictions. So just like any group, it’s not all… it’s just a really loud minority that tries to speak for everyone.
Honeybees destroy ecosystems because they’re more efficient at pollination than wild bees are, so there’s an ecological nuance to abstaining from honey. Apart from that, there’s the ethical component of taking away food that the bees produce for themselves that’s not ours for the taking.
Used to hate Arizona quite a bit because it felt super bougie and expensive for what’s essentially just a regular ice tea. Developed a taste for it over the years and like it quite a bit nowadays because it’s partly sweetened with stevia which makes it taste very pleasantly. Quite unfortunate that most of the flavours sold here aren’t vegan because they insist on 0,1% of honey in the ingredients
Stevia can die in a fire. Some people can limit their sugar intake to healthy levels. Make something either diet or not. I dislike the taste of all artificial sweeteners, and its in regular too now with most drinks. With artificial sweeteners (but maybe not stevia) wrecking your gut biome and other problems, they’ve just added something unhealthy to drinks. A drink that would normally be OK to drink once in a while.
I’m not an expert on artificial sweeteners, but as far as I know, they’re to be consumed in moderate amounts just like sugars are. And from what I’ve heard, stevia is among the better sweeteners compared to something like aspartame or maybe even sucralose. The mixing of sugar and a sweetener is not ideal, I think that’s true.
I’ll gladly be proven otherwise - don’t know enough about them tbh
Vegans don’t eat Honey? Huh.
Makes sense when you think about it, tho.
All that honeybee suffering…
It’s a lack of human imagination to think that animals without eyebrows can’t suffer.
There are parts of (industrial) beekeeping that aren’t ethical. It’s up to people themselves to decide if they are comfortable with that.
For example outcompeting other native pollinators, culling entire hives by drowning or gassing is a thing, clipping the wings of the queen to prevent swarming, increased risk of disease due to lower nutritional value of sugar water
Why the fuck are vegans not eating honey? It’s nectar?
Please don’t tell me it’s to do with exploitation of insects.
Why are you so aggressive in asking something? Do you expect people to help you like that?
Sorry you had to read a swear word, do you need a a lie down and a snack?
I actually am tired and hungry, so yes, I will. And I am not offended by swear words. It was the phrasing, and it seems I am not the only one.
I hope you find calmness in life.
Police someone else’s tone you odd little thing.
Don’t worry, they’ll be just as hypocritical as any other virtue-signaling group. Bees make honey, honey bad. But they’ll act like pollenators aren’t needed for crops or something. Or ignore that beekeepers will take their hives out to farms to pollinate various crops, like avocado. Or that bees seem to, on some level, understand that they have a great deal going. They’re not trapped in the hives; they could leave at anytime but don’t. And their honey production is higher than that of wild bees. And they have a higher survival rate because the beekeeper ensures they’re safe from predators, or from the elements, and from disease. Every beekeeper I’ve ever seen absolutely love their bees.
But the fun part, is not all vegans think like this. Because it’s a “contentious” topic among them. For one, why does anyone care what anyone eats? Like, as long as it’s not cannibalism, I don’t give a shit. But vegans, from what I gather, will “rank” themselves to other vegans to see who’s more vegan than the other. It really reminds me of the “church ladies”. The type who judge you for not being churchy enough, who brag about how much church they go to, how much they “do for the church”, a “higher than thou” mentality. Some vegans are closer to vegetarians, with just additional restrictions. So just like any group, it’s not all… it’s just a really loud minority that tries to speak for everyone.
Honeybees destroy ecosystems because they’re more efficient at pollination than wild bees are, so there’s an ecological nuance to abstaining from honey. Apart from that, there’s the ethical component of taking away food that the bees produce for themselves that’s not ours for the taking.
These fucking vegans care for insects now? That makes me so mad.
God forbid someone have empathy for living creatures.