• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    even as an american, american cheese is disgusting.

    I can taste the emulsifier they add to it so it “melts” nicer.

    I will disagree with pasta and cheddar, though. Mac and Cheese is wonderful. (well. from scratch mac and cheese. blue boxes need not apply)

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      2 days ago

      Kraft Singles aren’t American Cheese (like literally, they’re legally not allowed to call it that). I wish people would stop associating the two.

      Actual good American cheeses exist. A favorite of mine is Cooper Sharp American.

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        2 days ago

        Kraft singles are the standard “American cheese”, which is legally not actually cheese.

        But yes, there are plenty of other perfectly good cheeses made in America. I think the US is best known for Vermont cheddar.

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          21 hours ago

          To be fair to American cheese, I think the fact that the only thing anyone says about it is that it’s not legally cheese gives people the impression it’s spooky chemicals. It’s really not so bad. Here’s the recipe:

          8 ounces solid mild cheddar
          ¼ cup nonfat milk powder
          2 tablespoons tapioca starch
          ⅜ teaspoon salt
          2 tablespoons butter
          ¼ cup dry white wine
          ¼ cup water

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          1 day ago

          I think the US is best known for Vermont cheddar.

          In the US perhaps. Outside of the US it is mostly known for those Kraft singles.

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          2 days ago

          Ive grown to really enjoy Kraft singles on burgers and grilled cheese over the last several years. I come from the land of Tillimook cheese but personally can’t stand it on the above mentioned items because it’s just so damned greasy when you melt it and waters down the taste of everything else with grease flavor.

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            2 days ago

            I’m confused, both of those are American cheese.

            i meant American and American, not as cheese singles that is barely legally cheese

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              Well maybe i need to try cheddar made outside of the US on a burger to see how I like it. Kraft cheese is American cheese so I thought you meant the “style” of cheese not the country of origin. From what I’ve heard, Tillamook cheese is pretty popular in a lot of places though

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                2 days ago

                In my experience, there’s not much reason to try a burger outside the US.

                Tillamook is my go-to brand, by the way. Their ice cream is unbeatable, especially their Sea Salt & Honeycomb Toffee, which is the most amazing ice cream I’ve ever tasted.

                I also don’t love a sweaty cheese on my burger, even if it’s Tillamook.

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                  2 days ago

                  Tillamook and Umpqua (another local brand) are my go-to for ice cream, I just don’t care for their cheddar when it’s cooked on burgers though I do like the shredded version on pasta. Their cheddar is great on sandwiches though!

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                    You mean an LLM can be wrong? Ya don’t say. You’re actually demonstrating the issue that I have… Since LLMs take their data from shit people say, it thinks American cheese = Kraft Singles, because that’s what people seem to think. Whether or not is true is irrelevant to it.

                    No label in that photo btw. Read a label itself.

                    From the wiki:

                    Kraft Singles do not qualify for the “Pasteurized Process Cheese” labeling,[4] as the percentage of milkfat in the product that comes from the added dairy ingredients is greater than 5%. Kraft had used label “Pasteurized Process Cheese Food”, which allows for a greater percentage of added dairy, until the FDA gave a warning in December 2002 stating that Kraft could not legally use that label any longer due to a formulation change that replaced some of the non-fat milk in the recipe with milk protein concentrate, which is not a permitted additive. Kraft complied with the FDA order by changing the label to the current “Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product”.[5] Kraft Singles contain no vegetable oil or other non-dairy fats.[6]

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Singles

                    “Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product”

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      3 days ago

      mac and cheese is something else, you wouldn’t put parm on that. but practically every other sauce needs some real parm on top.

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      3 days ago

      They mean all cheese manufactured inside the United States, not the product titled “American Cheese,” as in the yellow slices like Kraft Singles, etc.

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        2 days ago

        Go read a Kraft Singles label from any point in the last two decades and show me where it calls itself “cheese.”

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            2 days ago

            not the product titled “American Cheese,” as in the yellow slices like Kraft Singles, etc.

            Kraft Singles are not titled “American Cheese.” Go read a label and come back. They’re not legally allowed to call it “cheese.”

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        3 days ago

        Oh that’s relatively harmless. Sodium coming from salt as a metal or thru a precipitation reaction, and citrate is something derived from a fungus.

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            You mean like mixing citric acid which is usually obtained from a fungus and sodium bicarbonate? That reaction creates CO2 gas the carbonate part of sodium bicarbonate. That leaves only the sodium after it bonds to the citrate ion which leaves extra H2O behind which is just water. That? But you could do all sorts of other reactions to get the sodium to come off something else.