I have those stairs with that carpet.
💯% this is looking down to a mattress at the bottom of the stairs.
Conclusive evidence:
Looking Down
Looking Up
(Sorry I was too lazy to get the low perspective)
Not convinced. It’s a different set of stairs and a different carpet. I have had stairs with a carpet more similar to the OP that did not have a riser. See elsewhere in these comments for a photo of these stairs, now bare. In the distant past, they were carpeted.
I think they’re cheap stairs without the bullnose. Makes it way easier to carpet. By the looks of the trim this is not a fancy apartment. The lack of bullnose contributes to the optical illusion.
While I’m not 100% certain it’s not just confusing perspective, it does appear that the slope rise is shorter than the run, suggesting that this is from the top of the stairs.
I think the railing gives it away.
Yeah, that too.
The shadow under the matress
Nice catch. The carpet wear corroborates this.
How are y’all arguing this? The banister makes it unquestionably obvious that it’s at the top. There’s no debate to be had here unless the banister was intentionally installed wrong just for the purpose of this meme, which would be crazy.
The mattress is at the top, y’all.
So the people walk on the wall? (Wear of the carpet and lack of visible ledge that stairs should have)
My stairs don’t have a visible ledge. I don’t know why people are acting like that’s standard. I think only one of the homes I’ve lived in has had a stairwell with ledges.
I guess I should address the “wear” on the carpet as well: it doesn’t look worn to me, it looks disturbed. Like before this person tried shoving their mattress up the stairs and got it stuck, they carried a heavy dresser or or something up the stairs and dragged it up each stair, sliding it along the carpet. I suspect this is a person moving into a cheap efficiency apartment, since the one my father moved into last when he was still alive looked extremely similar.
So if we are looking up the stairs then why is the carpet worn on the front and center of each stair step?
Because people drag shit up the stairs and that’s extremely cheap carpet?
There’s no banister in the picture. It looks like maybe there’s a support for a banister, but that doesn’t magically make the tops of the steps into the sides of the steps.
If you are so pedantic so as to not consider the support for the banister as part of the banister, then frankly I have no interest in the necessary effort required to discuss this or any matter further with you.
I’m not the one being pedantic. Whatever that object is, it’s not clear that it’s a banister.
Ok. Then use what you know of gravity and look for things that should be the other way if this were at the bottom.
Exactly. I’m using what I know of gravity. The mattress should be resting on top of something. If we’re looking down, it is. If we’re looking up, it’s floating in mid-air, apparently wedged against both walls even though it doesn’t look firmly wedged on the right side.
Alternately the left side of it is wedged because of the bannister it’s butted into.
The stairs show a kick pattern and the paint appears broken linearly due to the movement of the carpeting when kicked. (Alternately it could be from top pressure when stepped on, the paint wants to stick to the wall not the step so 50/50)
The mattress itself appears to bulge towards the viewer.
It’s all about perspective, that’s the whole point of the picture.
I see evidence for it being at the top, you see evidence for otherwise and lots of folks show how little they’re able to regulate their emotions through simple friendly discussion ( not directed at you, my dude )
And do you suppose the banister would be installed if the mattresses were at the bottom?
If our view was from the top looking down at the bottom then the banister would be rotated 90 degrees towards us.
IKR. This was the obvious answer 24 hours ago but here we are discussing wear patterns and contrast.
From the wear patten on the carpet I would say bottom, but the handle to the side makes me think top !..
The handrail probably has the hangers perpendicular to the railing instead of plumb to the ground. Just the cheapest ones you can get.
Could be a sconce instead of a weirdly placed handle.
It’s a curtain rod to a window midway up the stairs. We’re looking down a flight of steep older stairs. The mattress is lit by the window that is (mostly) under the rod, and by an open door at the bottom of the stairs.
Bottom, we can see dust and debris accumulated on the “run” part of the steps.
And you don’t see the nosing of the steps.
The biggest factor IMO is something no one mentioned yet: we can only see one face of each step (either the top or the wall). If a photo is taken from the bottom, we would almost always be able to see the tops of the first few steps, which isn’t visible here. If a photo is taken from the top, the walls would pretty much never be visible (if they were, you could also see the photographer’s feet).
Therefore, this photo is only consistent with a photo taken from the top.
It is possible that this is an extremely long flight of stairs or that the photo was taken from a deliberately deceptive angle, but if that’s the case I have to say it was expertly done, because I am CERTAIN that we are looking from the top and the mattress is at the bottom.
Nah, the hanger for the banister is very common, it protudes from the wall and turns up into the bottom of the handrail, therfore we are looking from the bottom up.
It’s going at an angle, not up. It’s 90° from the handrail itself, which is sloped to match the incline of the stairs.
Exactly right. The steps sit on the risers. If you can’t see both it’s from the top.
At the top-left corner of the image we see a support bracket for the hand rail. The orientation of this bracket only seems to make sense if we are at the bottom of the stairs looking up at the mattress. The shadow cast by the mattress also looks like the light is above and slightly closer to the camera.
If we were at the top looking down, that would imply that the hand rail brackets were sideways instead of being vertical, and that the light was mounted on the wall instead of the ceiling. I have seen stranger things in construction but it would still be strange and unlikely.
So people walk on the face of the stairs now? 😁 Look at the wear of the carpet on the stairs.
Old carpet will show wear as people kick / drag against the backs of the steps. This is especially true for cheaper construction where the steps don’t have the typical overhang.
Top the railing gives it away
And if you actually think for a moment you realize nobody carpets vertical parts of the steps
They absolutely do, and you’re arguing for the opposite position of the person above you
Maybe if they’re retarded and want to waste material, but then again I’m willing to bet the picture is from the US
And yeah, I’m arguing it’s at the bottom unless the owner of the house really is a retard and carpeted the whole steps
Bottom, you can see the carpet on the steps are worn out.
Thought something was weird here. The contrast and colour is making it difficult. If you turn up shadows it changes the entire feeling, including where the obvious light source is. I wouldn’t expect the dark side of the mattress unless there was a bright light directly above it.
Also the banister/handrail arm wouldn’t be horizontal. Most importantly, congrats, you got me invested.
No, the light could still be above the mattress on the ceiling at the bottom of the stairwell. This proves nothing.
But, the wear on the carpet indicates to me that those are the treads, so this is taken from the top of the stairs looking down. Also, not mentioned elsewhere, there is usually a nose on the treads and the carpet would follow the nose, which can’t be seen from above.
I think it is the bottom of the top of the stairs because of the lighting to the bottom left of the mattress. That should be in shadow from the mattress if it was at the bottom of the stairs.
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We are looking down on the mattress and it is casting a shadow on the step below it. If we were looking up at the mattress it would be casting a shadow across the stairs in front of it.
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Could be that there’s a door or window that’s contributing a lot of light down low, spilling under the mattress.
Definitely the bottom of the top. Or is it the top of the bottom?
Bottom, look at the wear of the carpet, lots of people have walked here.
Not just that, but the steps seem unreasonably tall and get shorter in the distance.
Maybe but we don’t know where this is, stair styles could vary in different regions.
Bottom, these stairs have a rounded lip to make them compliant with rise over run requirements in limited space.
Bottom.
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The risers on the stairs are not visible.
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The wear on the carpet goes right to the edge. That’s consistent with people stepping on it, not kicking it on the way up.
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If it’s at the top, the mattress doesn’t appear to have any of its weight resting on a step. It could be so wedged in that it’s being held in place, and that it was wedged that way by someone awkwardly pushing at the ends of it in a way that wouldn’t seem to give them enough leverage to do that. But the obvious explanation is more likely, that it’s at the bottom of the stairs.
If it was at the top those would be some big steps you’d have to lift your leg up over
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I know as someone who has rabbits and cats that the hairfall on the close to camera stairs indicates we are at the top looking down. I know hair patterns.
