As the supreme court upends precedent again and again, the liberal justices reveal the divisions within the legal body

On Friday, Justice Sonia Sotomayor delivered an acidic sermon against the court’s 6-3 decision to end lower courts’ practice of issuing nationwide injunctions to block federal executive orders, reading her dissent directly from the bench in a move meant to highlight its importance.

“No right is safe in the new legal regime the Court creates,” states Sotomayor’s dissent, joined by Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown-Jackson. “Today, the threat is to birthright citizenship. Tomorrow, a different administration may try to seize firearms from law abiding citizens or prevent people of certain faiths from gathering to worship.”

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      One thing I have observed about my fellow Usonians is that we all seem to have this strange, misplaced trust that eventually, ONE of our previous institutions will save us.

      People crow about how the 2nd amendment will be what helps us prevent tyranny, but also seem to completely gloss over the fact that our police and military operate on an entirely different power level than citizens do. I have watched the US military terrorize people in Afghanistan and Pakistan for 20 years. Why do we think we would do any better against it?

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        Its the dying gasp of American Exceptionalism, at this point.

        Ultra right wing types? My guns will save me!

        No they fucking won’t, not if big daddy government decides to fuck you specifically, they have more people, more ammo, more guns, armored personel carriers and astonishingly better intel than you do.

        Liberals? The law will function and stop this! The system will hold!

        Ahem, obviously false.

        Both of these are ultimately aspects of American society that are drilled into our heads as being exceptional, unique, and basically better than anywhere else on Earth.

        Again, obviously false, in its totality, as basically every aspect of that system is now totally unravelling.

        We are not facing a crisis, as if its in the future tense.

        We have been in the crisis since Jan 6th…

        Our entire legal system is now utterly arbitrary.

        This ruling means that Trump can issue an EO to break any law, and no judge can immediately order it stop… it all has to be drawn out in court for years, by which time, the Executive Branch will just have done whatever the fuck it wanted to.

        Even if a case is won after some time… and concludes that agents of the Executive Branch did actually break laws, Trump can pardon all of them instantly.

        Trump has just effectively done a line item veto on the 14th Amendment.

        He can now do that with any other Amendment or law as well.

        The law is dead.

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          Who is “they”? What you wrote doesn’t describe anyone I know. The people I know are deeply afraid, angry, and at times despondent. They try not to think too much about what’s happening and just live their lives hoping that this will pass in 2027 or 2029 because they can’t come to terms emotionally or mentally with what will happen otherwise.

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          I’ve never met a single American gun owner that didn’t know how to operate their firearm with ease unless it was their first day handling one. It’s not some scary or complex thing to use. I’ve been shooting guns since I was six years old.

          I also don’t know anyone that thinks much if any of this kind of stuff. Though I do have SOME faith in the military behaving themselves, maybe not the national guard… but the other branches.

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              Rural living in the USA is an interesting thing, I wouldn’t say my family was extremely gun friendly. My mother hates them but my father wanted to start hunting again and it was a good way for him and I to bond as there wasn’t many other mutual interests. The vast majority of boys (and some girls) in my grade school through high school all hunted and “owned” several firearms before they were able to drive a car. I knew how to maintain my weapons, hunt, prep, and butcher all kinds of wild game before I was out of high school. It’s just a culture thing. These days I’m a city slicker so it seems like a different world in my past now but it’s certainly where I came from.

              And you are right, it is a different thing in a gunfight. But life and death situations make people do extreme things.

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          Oh right like the US military hasn’t lost a bunch of wars against barely-trained insurgents over the last idk better part of a century

          Fuck outta here with this soldier worship rhetoric

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        Partly because hopefully not all of the military will fall in line to fight their own countrymen. But then we are seeing what is happening in LA…