For those of you unwilling to actually read the article, it’s not money.
The pool of blue-collar workers who are able and willing to perform tasks on a factory floor in the United States is shrinking. As baby boomers retire, few young people are lining up to take their place.
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For some companies, remaining globally competitive involves the use of sophisticated equipment that requires employees to have extensive training and familiarity with software. And employers cannot simply hire people right out of high school without providing specialized training programs to bring them up to speed.
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“We spent three generations telling everybody that if they didn’t go to college, they are a loser,” he said. “Now we are paying for it. We still need people to use their hands.”
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The country is flooded with college graduates who can’t find jobs that match their education
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The Trump administration’s aggressive cuts to training programs for blue-collar workers have also hurt efforts to train a new generation of factory workers.
This is why I make it abundantly clear to people who ask me about my college choices that i am going to college to LEARN - not for job training. I am willing to pay money to people to teach me new things. I am NOT willing to pay money to get trained to do a job for someone else.
I shouldn’t have to pay for training, let the evil overlords sacrifice a pittance and also pay well. Otherwise, detail cars, clean houses, mow lawns. Tell evil people “bye!”
“this job requires specialized training we’re not willing to provide” is the same management failure as “the wages offered for this job are not sufficient to attract workers.”
Raise the latter, and give the former with a reduced wage for a set number of years.
And employers cannot simply hire people right out of high school without providing specialized training programs to bring them up to speed.
It is 100% money. You are so close to seeing the point with this sentence. If the factory owners paid for specialized training programs for new hires, then they would have specialized employees who can do the job. They are neither willing to invest money in new people, stubbornly insisting that people already come fully trained, but also not willing to appropriately compensate those who are both trained and willing to put their bodies at risk on a factory floor.
They also mention that they’re physically demanding jobs with inflexible schedules.
Even if I had the training I’d still want way more to have to leave my house and put on pants to potentially get injured, either acutely or chronically.
Yeah, well, dog-piling is Lemmy’s whole thing. Especially when someone points out that there are much more specific factors to blame besides “capitalism bad”.
Fabrication companies don’t (always ‡) pay for your welding certification, hospitals don’t pay for doctors to go to med school, software companies don’t pay for your CS degree, HVAC techs don’t train you straight off the street, etc. People forget trade schools are a thing / alternative to college degrees and that you’re expected to take those paths yourself. Even apprenticeships expect you to have at least some background as to not waste time on you, unless they’re just super desperate.
But no, everything that ails you has to boil down to “capitalism bad” even if that’s as technically true as “breathing oxygen eventually leads to death”.
‡ It’s not unheard of for them to pay for that certification (I can speak for at least one instance), but it’s definitely not the norm.
For those of you unwilling to actually read the article, it’s not money.
It’s money. Companies don’t want to pay people to train them. They want to hire people already trained.
Someone has to spend the money to train people. Company, government, or person.
People did what they were told. They paid money for college training. Not company training.
It’s money.
They’d have to pay for training, which costs money.
it is always money. this is how labor works. need training? pay for it. need me to be trained before hiring? make it affordable. again: money.
This is why I make it abundantly clear to people who ask me about my college choices that i am going to college to LEARN - not for job training. I am willing to pay money to people to teach me new things. I am NOT willing to pay money to get trained to do a job for someone else.
I shouldn’t have to pay for training, let the evil overlords sacrifice a pittance and also pay well. Otherwise, detail cars, clean houses, mow lawns. Tell evil people “bye!”
“this job requires specialized training we’re not willing to provide” is the same management failure as “the wages offered for this job are not sufficient to attract workers.”
Raise the latter, and give the former with a reduced wage for a set number of years.
Yes, it IS money.
It is 100% money. You are so close to seeing the point with this sentence. If the factory owners paid for specialized training programs for new hires, then they would have specialized employees who can do the job. They are neither willing to invest money in new people, stubbornly insisting that people already come fully trained, but also not willing to appropriately compensate those who are both trained and willing to put their bodies at risk on a factory floor.
They also mention that they’re physically demanding jobs with inflexible schedules.
Even if I had the training I’d still want way more to have to leave my house and put on pants to potentially get injured, either acutely or chronically.
That’s a lot of down votes for the truth
Yeah, well, dog-piling is Lemmy’s whole thing. Especially when someone points out that there are much more specific factors to blame besides “capitalism bad”.
Fabrication companies don’t (always ‡) pay for your welding certification, hospitals don’t pay for doctors to go to med school, software companies don’t pay for your CS degree, HVAC techs don’t train you straight off the street, etc. People forget trade schools are a thing / alternative to college degrees and that you’re expected to take those paths yourself. Even apprenticeships expect you to have at least some background as to not waste time on you, unless they’re just super desperate.
But no, everything that ails you has to boil down to “capitalism bad” even if that’s as technically true as “breathing oxygen eventually leads to death”.
‡ It’s not unheard of for them to pay for that certification (I can speak for at least one instance), but it’s definitely not the norm.
But it’s false.
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