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    Advertisement for whatever slrpnk dot net is trying to sell?

    I definitely have friends who I know are a lot better at this kind of stuff than I am (mostly because they get less anxious over what happens if they screw up but…). I have never seen a difference once the tv is mounted because… you can’t see the fricking mount once the TV is mounted.

    I dunno. I also kind of have problems with the underlying premise too. Yes, toxic masculinity is a massive problem and people very much do not realize how few “male role models” there are for kids who aren’t bald human traffickers and the people who sniff their chairs. But “Hey dude, I see you are a super masculine strong man with a bubble level” is not the answer.

    The answer is to teach kids they don’t NEED role models that fit the same gender roles they do (or, more often, their parents think they should). An athlete is an athlete and a smart person is a smart person. Same with being “handy”. This is a lesson girls/“girls” were forced to learn long ago and is one boys/“boys” would benefit from. Because then you don’t need to say “Well, I like what this person is saying but they have the wrong genitalia and aren’t muscular enough”.

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      What you see isn’t the issue with proper mounting, its what you don’t.

      Leveling, positioning for cable pathways/junction box positioning/planning, heights for good viewing, proper blocking for support, so on. And someone who foes this for a living is going to notice.

      And slrpnk.net, the Lemmy instance, is about working towards a sustainable future (solarpunk concept), so that’s the only thing that instance is selling is a climate friendly future. Well worth checking out some of the great communities on there.

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        If you need help leveling a tv mount (especially considering they all come with really nice paper templates) then you have no business doing anything professionally. Even one of the shitty pocket bubble levels is more than good enough for visual inspection*. Let alone having a proper one for “real” level.

        Cabling is generally a home owner’s problem unless you popped two holes in the wall to run some conduit. Which, again, is not visible in a facebook post unless someone just never thought of doing that… which gets back to “you have no business doing anything professionally”.

        There is no situation where even Super Elite Mega Masculine And Muscular Contractors are going to be impressed by someone’s tv mounting game to the point of wanting to learn. Especially on Facebook of all things.

        This is engagement farming. Nonsensical engagement farming at that. It is on the same level of an AI generated jesus and a caption about how it is strange that those posts never go viral.

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          I don’t think you understand the leveling process in the context of display mounts if you think a paper template has any relevance.

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            You use the level to ensure that the drill points are “close to level”. You then drill and begin mounting the… mount. At which point you are already at the point of glancing at a bubble level while adjusting a few nuts to get to actually level.

            But hey? I guess I don’t have enough strong male role models to use a bubble level. I should check facebook.

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              You clearly need some better role models period if you’re spending so much time trying to tear down strangers that are just spreading positivity.

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                There is nothing wrong with paying someone to do this for you and you should not feel ashamed of that. It is not a hard challenge but a big part of “growing up” is knowing when to value your time more than money. What will take you half a day will take someone on a fiver-equivalent twenty minutes.

                But tv mounting? As long as you have a stud finder (or know what a stud is), it is more or less idiot proof and is very much NOT something that “craftsmen” are going to really notice. And those that do… at least one person in that conversation should not be doing this for a living.

                Which is why this facebook post was 100% engagement farming. Because if you show the wiring behind a circuit panel or some joinery in furniture or something similar? THAT is something that you can really see skill in… if you know to look for it. To everyone else it is nonsense. But then you don’t get the feel good of “I should like and share this because it is so heartwarming and I can relate”.

                And the reason why these accounts post this bullshit is to get those accounts popular enough in the facebook algorithm that they then CAN post some ads and get exposure.

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                  What the giant wall of text tells me is exactly what I understood to be true - you are a layman playing expert.

                  I can guarantee there are actual experts in display positioning, sizing, mounting requirements, pathway, etc. Yes, they do notice the difference.

                  You do not, because you don’t know what you’re talking about, while pretending to be an expert. Please just stop. Hi, I am one of those experts in this field! I don’t physically install, hell I don’t even do the drawing work anymore, but I can tell you right now you haven’t got a clue.

                  So please, move on. Stop being weird.

                  Edit: I’ll give you a free tip. Mounting to the stud is not what you want to do. What you want to do is straddle studs with 3/4" ply for blocking, which is what you mount to.

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                    Mounting to the stud is not what you want to do. What you want to do is straddle studs with 3/4" ply for blocking, which is what you mount to.

                    If the builder had the wherewithal to provide blocking, which I’ll agree is mandatory for anything bigger than 55" (and a 2x8 or 2x10 spanned between the stud bays is a bit better, it provides more meat for the lags to sink into and most jobsites will have some in a scrap pile). But for 55" and smaller, 5/16" x 2" lags into the 2x4 studs is plenty sufficient. Ply works if you want to use toggle bolts, but you have to notch it into the stud for the drywall to sit flat.

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                    And… where on the facebook picture is that backing piece?

                    Also, could you do a few curls before you explain it to me? This way I have an ice strong masculine role model to teach me how I can see through drywall in jpegs.

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        Knew that part but figured it was an article based on the link. Apparently just a picture of a facebook post.

        So… no idea what that facebook post was trying to sell but I guess this is why all that AI nonsense is spammed endlessly on that site.

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            This is the internet. Always assume people are selling something.

            In this case? MAYBE it is someone advertising their handyman service (doubtful because this is a nonsense premise). More likely? It is the same as all those posts about the fucking aligator or puppy and all the ai generated jesus missing a leg and wearing a military uniform pictures where people say “Why don’t these posts ever go viral”? It is nonsense that boomers stare at and share.

            Which in and of themselves are “harmless”. But when the metrics for those posts get high enough? THAT is when the owner of those bots post ads.

            Screenshotting with no citation kind of undermines that so… good? But it is important to understand why content like this exists.