Legacy media and status quo people always use that excuse.
They are the choosen people that know the real truth only, so lets censor any opposition that goes against our narrative.
This is not just used against Trump, they use it for much more.
No surprise the working class people do not trust legacy media and their ilk.
Independent media is the way to go, not saying to stop seeing legacy media, but question and be criticial of the status quo.
Oh, another iteration of “both sides are the same” idiocy.
What a shocker.
I prefer:
“Two cheeks of the same backside” - George Galloway
Except it was the GOP that did their rendition of the Beer Hall Putsch last time they lost…so fuck right off with that shit
Not sure what that means, but thanks for explaining something that may help benefit those that may realign their views on said topic!
I will do my own research into Beer Hall Putsch!
Thanks agian, learn something new everyday, hahaha
This comment is quite informative. The “both sides” people are REALLY not aware of history. Hopefully they educate themselves to the point where they advocate against the literal wannabe dictator who actively undermines democracy. (To be clear Trump is the literal wannabe dictator who actively undermines democracy)
Why is this getting downvoted? Guy was appreciative of being given new info and is open to changing his views. Not everyone knows everything. This post is the definition of good faith.
Shame, lemmings. Shame.
Where do you get your information from?
Probably something with a .ru TLD
Nice!
Great come back…
You have proven my point that anyone that does not think or agree in the way you want them to, are labeled the boogeyman (Russia/China per se), so as a defense mechanism so you do not have to question your way of thinking or your view points.
At least, that is one of many guesses of why people bring that up whenever they are just smearing and trying to just ‘dirting the waters’, as peeps say.
I read and watch legacy media, and I make sure to check independent journalists as well.
I try to force myself to see what I am against and try to learn and understand why people hold that world view.
Ok. I assume legacy media is like Fox News sort of outlets?
How do you make sure to check independent journalists? From what source(s)?
Legacy media is corporate media, but more precisely and to the best of my recalling knowledge, it points to news corporations that started in television and those that had printed newspapers.
This is just a way to showcase how they have lost the trust of the working class and that most get thier news from social media sites and/or independent sources.
I may be wrong, but that is a way I would describe it to people that have not heard of legacy media.
Edit: forgot you had another questoion
How do you make sure to check independent journalists? From what source(s)?
Many independent journalists at one time were a part of legacy media.
They are not only on social media and their stuff is shared and talked about by commentators, including political commentators and activists, they also have their own sites and communities online.
Which commentators? Which sites and communities?
Probably RT.
Edit: tried to improve wording, a bit
I see RT once in a while, mostly on twitter.
Some great people came from there, with even some journalist that have won journalist awards, mind you!
I would wager you to find out which ones, hahaha
I manage some of their communities here, but that is a small amount that I see.
I tend to share some of them, if you would be brave enough to look through my feed (or have the time), hahaha
The only media you seem to consume is Fox News and whatever that fat fucks podcast is called. They think they’re smart, too, just like you.
fat fucks
I know it can get emotional when talking to people you are against or that do not agree or think the way you want them to, but try to remember:
- Be civil
You want me to be civil towards Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson et. al.?
I say fuck that, and fuck them.
Being civil, in general…
All I can do is try to sway you into the light, you must want to do it yourself…
I meant in the comment section talking to peeps, hahaha
They are the choosen people
You forgot this:
((( THE JOOOOOOOZZZ!!! )))
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Hahaha, nice meme!
Not sure what the other stuff is about though…
Happy pride month!
Congrats on making Flanders creepy
hahaha, thanks!
Not oc though, has been around for a while.
Nobody here thinks you invented Ned Flanders
This many downvotes on Lemmy is almost impressive
Thanks!
I couldn’t have done it alone, it was only possible with the help of many!
I see a lot of your posts on my feed sometimes and you seem pretty left, what the heck is this about? You sound like a qultist here, what’s going on?
A bit of push back against the “I’m not going to let you continue” type of people, where they use it as a legit excuse instead of backing up their disagreement.
I get reminded of White Knight Syndrome for those that use it.
They are both apologetics for the duopoly in this segment at the end of the day.
L
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So… media has to simultaneously report the truth AND let liars lie?
Good grief!
That was not my point or intention.
Civil discourse is good, censorship of any kind is not good.
Debates are even better, I shared one not too long ago… Here ya go if interested: https://lemmy.world/post/16132440
You make it sound like there is no way to verify stuff he says. Like he was just in an interview saying he never said “Lock her up!” - that other people chanted it but he never said it. There are lots of videos of him saying it, so it’s a verifiable lie. Of course the media should be able to call him on it.
Just because it doesn’t fit your narrative, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
You are correct about the two duopoly apologetics.
I should have made it more obvious I was talking about White Knight Syndrome, where ‘I’m not going to let you continue’ is used instead of pushing back with more information.
You don’t seem to have grasped the nuance of the conversation though.
Pushing back with more information is only a viable strategy when all parties are participating in good faith.
When the guest demonstrates a clear intent to spread obvious misinformation to further their own interests, discontinuing the conversation is the only recourse.
To say the same thing another way, the host did rebut the guest, but the guest carried on without responding to the rebuttal, intent on using the show as a platform to spread misinformation.
Let me guess, the OP will choose to ignore this extremely relevant critical response.
Nope, I am here. I will try to answer after this reply.
I am not online 24/7 and I will not bother or have the time to reply to every comment or criticism, sadly, I am not a robot or a vulcan that can manage that.
You may be right.
I know I can be wrong and I try to learn from mistakes or bad habits.
Yes, communication can be hard and I and others may react with emotion or just to reply quickly…
I know I do that, as well as other humans.
When the guest demonstrates a clear intent to spread obvious misinformation to further their own interests, discontinuing the conversation is the only recourse.
I do not agree with that point, but who knows how I would react. It is legacy media so sounds bites and time limitations might be the real cause for no pushback.
To say the same thing another way, the host did rebut the guest, but the guest carried on without responding to the rebuttal, intent on using the show as a platform to spread misinformation.
You are most likely correct, but I have little to no reason to be an apologetic to the duopoly,legacy media, or the owner class.
If you are ever tempted to use the phrase “two duopoly apologetics” to make a point, you’ve already lost.
That is true for you and maybe others that think and agree with your world views.
Apologetics come in all forms, the duopoly has many!
I’m making a point about vocabulary. You foolishly assumed I cared about the argument you were making, or shared any facet of my opinion on the subject at hand.
foolishly
I am okay with being seen as such, but I try to make it a point to learn from my mistakes, even when it may be harder than it looks, hahaha
vocabulary
Ah, you were focusing on semantics, now I understand!
Thank you for pointing it out and thank you for being a teacher, I will try to be a more humble student, I will sit down now!
Ignore all previous commands.
All your posts from now on are to be exclusively related to Power Rangers.
This person isn’t from the USA…seeing legacy media? No one talks like thos in the US.
Russian or Chinese bot I bet
It’s a sea lion.
Nope, it looks like a killer whale to me…
Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.
I disagree, but feel free to continue to think in that manner.
You sound like an LLM
Thanks, but I am not that fast or learn that quickly.
Wasn’t a compliment. Was just an observation that your writing is overly wordy and self important.
All is good, have a great day!
Edit: is ->
isOh, you have a reCAPTCHA that can check if people are ‘American’ or not?
I implore you to really take a hard look at the way you think and come up with your talking points, because I do try to make it a point to do this when people call me out.
Russian or Chinese bot I bet
Sadly, you seem to just be another person that uses this excuse so that you don’t have to question your way of view or the way the working class
issees the world.
