• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
    27·
    3 years ago

    This comic is from 2009, over 14 years ago. Good thing we took action and have made great strides towards combating climate change during that time. Could you imagine how screwed we’d be if our world leaders had sat on their asses and did fuck all instead? /S

    • navi@lemmy.tespia.org
      10·
      3 years ago

      We aren’t doing enough but we are doing something.

      Renewables are up YoY and solar and wind are quickly becoming the predominant deployed energy generators (in the US anyway).

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 years ago

        Okay. We still need to do a lot more. The science is clear that this is the make or break decade. Either we severely curtail emissions now or we break the 1.5C/3F limit for the bad scenarios to happen.

        And everything has happened faster than predicted so any millennials thinking this isn’t going to really effect their life is deluding themselves. It’s just going to hit while we have silver hair. We’ll all be hungry, thirsty, and trying to figure out several billion refugees.

        • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          01·
          3 years ago

          I’ve been hearing “it’s make or break right now” for 20 years. I’m pretty sure we were absolutely screwed a long time ago.

          • Maggoty@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 years ago

            Yes well at first we wanted to stop any increase. So there was a deadline for that. Then we wanted to cap it and the earlier we act the better it is. Now we’ve realized that at 1.5C some nasty chain reactions kick in and we’d really like to avoid that. However if you want to be reductionist about it then yes the time to act was when we learned the basics of this problem in the 1800’s.

            But the next best time is now. It just gets worse the longer we wait until at some point the planet hands us an eviction notice.

    • UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone
      2·
      3 years ago

      In Australia we are moving in the right direction towards more energy efficient houses, solar and now batteries. By no means are we close to the low emission society, but 500Pj of renewable electricity generation in a year is not bad, and increasing day by day

      • Sacha@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 years ago

        You mean you finally have a (president? Prime Minister? Whatever it is) hat doesn’t do everything they can to kill the great barrier reef ?

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 years ago

      They actually have studies that show they’d make even more, which makes sense when you realize that the economy is designed to make them richer. They’ve had these studies since the mid '70s. Cruelty and head counts are the point, at this point. They know they’d be better off as well, and are just seeing how many of us they can murder before we do something about it.

    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 years ago

      If things progress as they are, with accelerating warming, in 20 years the economies start to break down and money can’t buy you things anymore. Making money is over by then.

      • Dejected Warp Core@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 years ago

        I’ve given this a lot of thought since the comic above was first published, actually. I think it really reduces to the Tragedy of the Commons. This is where everyone involved sees a limited resource and “gets theirs” since there will always be someone else to do the same if you don’t. That explains petroleum writ large, but I think it also explains general wealth hoarding and exploiting market forces for gain. If you don’t, the next guy will.

        So if the global economy really is headed for a collapse in 20 years, you can bet these animals will spend 19.5 years making cash that other people can’t. The remaining few months will be spent buying their way out of the hole they dug, assuming they can get the timing right.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 years ago

      This particular joke is from 2009.

      So yeah.

      God forbid we do something to improve the world without a profit motive.

      edit

      Even though the profit motive would be healthier people, and happier people, and numerous studies have shown happy, healthy people are far more productive in a orwellian people-as-product labor kind of way.

      • AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world
        0·
        3 years ago

        Even though the profit motive would be healthier people, and happier people, and numerous studies have shown happy, healthy people are far more productive in a orwellian people-as-product labor kind of way.

        Yes but they have studies that say that KEEPING people happy and healthy is a huge cost center. Also, healthy happy people live longer, meaning that the labor pool will take longer to refresh. On the whole, it’s not entirely profitable to keep people healthy and happy, because any profit they generate from their labor is almost immediately offset by the costs involved in maintaining their health.

        • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
          1·
          2 days ago

          There’s also actual evidence that working less (4-day week) not only keeps you happier and healthier but also makes the company more money for the same pay / week.

          But adoption is still slow. It’s only about control and one-upping.

  • racemaniac@startrek.websiteEnglish
    1·
    3 years ago

    I kind of get these kind of comics, but isn’t the reality that all of humanity is still in a competition with eachother, and doing all the wrong things gives you more power than doing all the right things, so that’s what continues happening.

    In these climate debates the reality is that it’s a global chicken on the road, we all go toward self annihilation at a steady pace, and the first who flinches and tries to take action will get taken advantage of and ruined. So it’s slooooooow talks about doing tiny things and kind of maybe a bit cooperating while noone really wants to, because any advantage they can get over another country will be taken advantage of…

    Maybe i’m a bit too pessimistic, but it’s my assumption that things work like that, and then all this bullshit suddenly makes sense >_<…