But the conversation wasn’t about models of ownership or economic modalities. Nothing I said is invalidated by capitalism, socialism, communism, democracy, authorotarianism etc… Degrowth is a simple, known method that is ethical and requires no magical thinking of hail-mary techno-inventing some just-out-of-reach-but-never-quite-here technology that all the growth based schools of thought seem to depend on. It works under any modality.
Let a little air out of the balloon before it pops. Not complicated.
Degrowth is a simple, known method that is ethical and requires no magical thinking
That’s got nothing to do with individuals having or not having kids. Neither does high daycare costs.
Let a little air out of the balloon before it pops.
The problem with these metaphors is that they never have any material grounding. An economy isn’t an air bubble. “Letting the air out” isn’t “having fewer kids”. And I’m not even sure what you think “popping” is supposed to be.
This is a really disastisfying discussion. You can’t see how degrowth has everything to do with daycare prices and birthrates, so I can only assume you are new to the concept and haven’t bothered a cursory glance to wikipedia.
In the same breath, you post how you don’t like metaphores meant to characterize arguments to lay people.
But the conversation wasn’t about models of ownership or economic modalities. Nothing I said is invalidated by capitalism, socialism, communism, democracy, authorotarianism etc… Degrowth is a simple, known method that is ethical and requires no magical thinking of hail-mary techno-inventing some just-out-of-reach-but-never-quite-here technology that all the growth based schools of thought seem to depend on. It works under any modality.
Let a little air out of the balloon before it pops. Not complicated.
That’s got nothing to do with individuals having or not having kids. Neither does high daycare costs.
The problem with these metaphors is that they never have any material grounding. An economy isn’t an air bubble. “Letting the air out” isn’t “having fewer kids”. And I’m not even sure what you think “popping” is supposed to be.
This is a really disastisfying discussion. You can’t see how degrowth has everything to do with daycare prices and birthrates, so I can only assume you are new to the concept and haven’t bothered a cursory glance to wikipedia.
In the same breath, you post how you don’t like metaphores meant to characterize arguments to lay people.
I think we’re done here.
Because there’s not even a correlation, much less a causation.
Not when they’re hollow, no