Ok, finished watching the entire interview. Didn’t hear anything that would I would classify as a hatred for trans people. What part did you find hateful?
Where did Newsom support a policy of forcing people to identify as birth gender?
As for sports, you don’t think sports should be biologically separated by gender? Nor did he support a ban. His policy is to leave it up to the local governing bodies and communities that involve the people in question. It’s a FRACTION of a percentage point of people. That’s a very complex issue, and no I don’t think it’s hateful. If you think it’s coming from a place of hatred, I would definitely call that hyperbolic as I originally stated. I know trans people that understand sports are a more complex issue that involves fairness and biological advantages. Everything in life that doesn’t let you do whatever you want whenever you want is not the same as hatred and persecution. And this mentality is exactly the victim mentality that people are driving people towards the right.
Like by your metrics, I would be labeled as a transphobic hateful non ally, despite being a lifelong progressive voter with a trans gf all because I think you should make pragmatic voting decisions and understand that whether or not a fraction of a percentage of people can play some dumb games with a ball while they and far more people lose access to Medicaid.
This is exactly what people talk about when we say the left fights amongst itself, has no solidarity, no strategy. If you think trans sports affects trans people more than hundreds of billions being cut from healthcare, than hundreds of billions being redirected into a personal army that will hunt them, then I’m going to disagree.
Your fear is making you see everyone as an enemy, and if you want to get meaningful things done, it requires communicating and organizing with people, and communicating requires a bridging of minds. Not stubborn projection.
The thing is the sports thing is an issue, but not for why you’re thinking.
Conservatives do not care about women’s sports, what they care about is a wedge issue. Something they can point to and say “See we knew they were bad.”
Even if you wanna say they have a point, the idea that transwomen have an unfair advantage has been debunked. Every league that lets transpeople play typically require blood tests to prove the person has been on hormones long enough for any advantage to be gone.
Transwomen in sports is not a real concern, it’s just how the Right gets their foot in the door. And it’s clearly working on you given how overly hostile you’re being towards me.
It’s not that I REALLY support Trans Athletes, in reality I can count them on one hand. The problem is that the athlete non-issue is being used as an anti-trans dogwhistle
I’m not seeing everyone as the enemy, you are seeing us as unreasonable simply because we refuse to be labeled as dangerous by the Right.
Ok, thanks for that. I’ll watch the full interview and get back to you. If there are specific parts or timestamps of the interview you want to draw my attention to let me know, in the meantime I’ll open a tab and work my way through it.
He literally did a whole podcast with Charlie Kirk explaining his hatred for us
Ok, finished watching the entire interview. Didn’t hear anything that would I would classify as a hatred for trans people. What part did you find hateful?
You don’t think banning transpeople from sports or forcing us to identify as our birth gender are hateful?
Where did Newsom support a policy of forcing people to identify as birth gender?
As for sports, you don’t think sports should be biologically separated by gender? Nor did he support a ban. His policy is to leave it up to the local governing bodies and communities that involve the people in question. It’s a FRACTION of a percentage point of people. That’s a very complex issue, and no I don’t think it’s hateful. If you think it’s coming from a place of hatred, I would definitely call that hyperbolic as I originally stated. I know trans people that understand sports are a more complex issue that involves fairness and biological advantages. Everything in life that doesn’t let you do whatever you want whenever you want is not the same as hatred and persecution. And this mentality is exactly the victim mentality that people are driving people towards the right.
Like by your metrics, I would be labeled as a transphobic hateful non ally, despite being a lifelong progressive voter with a trans gf all because I think you should make pragmatic voting decisions and understand that whether or not a fraction of a percentage of people can play some dumb games with a ball while they and far more people lose access to Medicaid.
This is exactly what people talk about when we say the left fights amongst itself, has no solidarity, no strategy. If you think trans sports affects trans people more than hundreds of billions being cut from healthcare, than hundreds of billions being redirected into a personal army that will hunt them, then I’m going to disagree.
Your fear is making you see everyone as an enemy, and if you want to get meaningful things done, it requires communicating and organizing with people, and communicating requires a bridging of minds. Not stubborn projection.
The thing is the sports thing is an issue, but not for why you’re thinking.
Conservatives do not care about women’s sports, what they care about is a wedge issue. Something they can point to and say “See we knew they were bad.”
Even if you wanna say they have a point, the idea that transwomen have an unfair advantage has been debunked. Every league that lets transpeople play typically require blood tests to prove the person has been on hormones long enough for any advantage to be gone.
Transwomen in sports is not a real concern, it’s just how the Right gets their foot in the door. And it’s clearly working on you given how overly hostile you’re being towards me.
It’s not that I REALLY support Trans Athletes, in reality I can count them on one hand. The problem is that the athlete non-issue is being used as an anti-trans dogwhistle
I’m not seeing everyone as the enemy, you are seeing us as unreasonable simply because we refuse to be labeled as dangerous by the Right.
Ok, thanks for that. I’ll watch the full interview and get back to you. If there are specific parts or timestamps of the interview you want to draw my attention to let me know, in the meantime I’ll open a tab and work my way through it.