Looks like learned helplessness is back from the grave with a new definition
It never went away.
Sincerely, someone who works in IT support.
Am I the only one who tried a LLM like twice, saw it gave out bullshit, then never tried it again (though I do see it forced on me with general searches, be it google or DDG or Bing or kinda anywhere now)?
I tried Copilot to answer a couple of coding questions, and I ended up having to take as much time to double check the answers/code it didn’t seem worth it.
Yep, I see very little value in them. I have techie friends who keep telling me I should try it more, but it just pisses me off and creeps me out. It took a long time getting this brain working as well as it does, and it’s already headed back downhill. My neurons need the exercise.
People who know what they’re doing don’t use these “tools”, it’s the fools and morons out there who have no idea how anything works that use these things and they don’t double check them before they implement their crap code.
FYI, you can use noai.duckduckgo.com to disable AI searches :)
just wish they would put that (and the non-“please install our browser”) URL into Firefox’s dropdown of search engines!
You can add it yourself too :)
I’ve asked LLMs a few simple coding questions, only to question why the code isn’t working receiving an Oh sorry here try this malformed garbage instead.
I’ve asked Gemini to generate an image, only to receive a completely black image. When asked to describe the image Gemini would tell me what I was requesting it to generate. I saved the image, uploaded to Gemini and asked to describe the image. It gaslit me and straight lied that it was not the same image.
What a waste of time and resources.
I use it to help me write because of my dyslexia. But that’s really all it’s good for. Nothing advance like creating one line diagrams for electrical installs. I tried. It sucked at it.
Imagine asking AIs to form your own opinion.
“Grok, should I support Ukraine or Russia?”
Who would have thought that we are all becoming like Batman’s villain, Two Face, to make decisions from an inanimate object.
Lemmy, how do I feel about this?
You’ve entered a fugue state.
Removed by mod
danekrae hurt itself in confusion.
That’s a melancholic question, grte!
I was already in one before.
Your chakra’s not properly aligned today, try again tomorrow.
You have the morbs.
Them orbs to ponder.
Hell yeah! It’s orbin’ time!
strangely mellow about it all
You feel
yesabout thiswho do you feel about this?
I work in a very technical field and I used to be worried that I wouldn’t be able to keep up into my 40s and 50s but seeing how genZ deals with technology makes me much less concerned. I feel like we’re heading into a situation where the big divide will be pre and post brain rot.
I feel like we’re heading into a situation where the big divide will be pre and post brain rot.
Almost feels too simple, given how brainrotted boomers are.
It’s like there’s a window with elder Millenials and Gen X, people who straddled the line of before/after the internet as they were growing up, that are sane.
Everyone else is broken.
100%. My brother in-law is like 10 years younger than me. Holy fuck is he stupid. Man has stage 4 Joe Rogan /gpt induced brain rot
can confirm 3 younger (late teens/early twenties) BIL with dog shit for brains
I think that, since the wave of IT outsourcing in the 00s, anybody with a career in Tech who had reached the level of Senior Designer-Developer by then or was close to it was safe in their job forever, because that seriously bottlenecked the job opportunities and the Junior and Mid career levels in the West whilst in places that benefited from it, it just translated into tons of people going into Tech who had no knack for it whatsover and would otherwise never have enter the field (so whilst in some countries gifted techies were just giving up on a Tech career, in other countries the field got tons more of incompetent techies who would never good enough to become senior experts in the field), meaning ever fewer professionals reaching the Senior expertise level.
Silver lining in a very big, very dark cloud for those in the right place and time.
Now, AI plus almost all young people nowadays growing up as Tech tool users surrounded by locked-down systems rather than tool makers (if only out of need, because most Tech stuff used to need some configuring and babysitting) is just making that even worse.
I suspect Tech growth and improvement is going to pretty much grind to a halt in the next decade or two.
To be fair, even before LLMs tech knowledge among the young was on the decline. You don’t have to know tech anymore yo use it. Everything is super easy to use with an intuitive GUI and zero need to look behind it.
I’m just glad my dad showed me how the launch games in the dos prompt
Hey remember how social media cause all types of cognitive issues? Y’all ready for round two?
I’m still not ready for round one. Can we go back?
Idiocracy wasn’t supposed to be a documentary.
Hey?! Why Come You Don’t Have A Tattoo?
Busy! 'batin
The nickname is new, the behaviour isn’t.
At the risk of coming off judgemental of family, my mother in law is exactly like this; especially when it comes to anything related to the computer.
My partner is an only child and every time mother dearest has any kind of issue, real or imagined, with her computer, she’s hitting the speed dial for my partner’s phone. At this point she’s kind of in a mindset of “I’ve tried nothing and I’m all out of ideas”. If she can’t get an immediate response she actually starts to think about the problem logically, and tries to fix it herself.
Luckily, she hasn’t been inundated with AI chat bots yet.
I’m certain that if she could manage to get to chat gpt, she would be asking it what to do about everything under the sun… Lucky for her, I work in IT support and manage what updates she gets, or more accurately, doesn’t get.
She’s a fairly mild example since she actually tries when she can’t get an instant response from someone on what to do. There’s plenty of people that do not.
I’m almost entirely convinced that some of the willful ignorance is simply people aggressively keeping to their job descriptions (at least when it comes to what I normally have to deal with)… They don’t try to fix their computer because that’s not their job. Even if they know how, they won’t. That’s not in their job description. It gives them an excuse to work less and get paid for it.
Regardless of the reason, people often know nothing about things and don’t care to be informed on the subject, they just want the easy answer as to what they need to do next. Unfortunately for them, life is rarely that “black and white”.
Be precise. Based on My interactions with Lemmy, will I find this true or false. Write My opinion in 3 sentences.
That is an excellent idea! Based on post history you want to live in a swamp, cover yourself in mouldy leaves and cook soup from frogs and old tennis socks. Was this reply helpful?
Yes
Certainly! You believe that this is very not good. You think that this will lead to the end of human civilisation. You would rather kill whomever is responsible than keep having to watch the steady decline. As a solution you should listen to more Kesha.
You feel compelled to write a 12 page missive on why cars are awful, Zohran Mamdami is the true messiah, and AI is worse than the bubonic plague.
“Someone said ‘second hand thinker’ and I still think about that daily,” another user added.
That’s solid but not specific enough. I know a lot of people let YouTube and TikTok do their thinking these days.
I argue its worse, in the end whatever is being regurgitated from what they see on youtube ends with the video duration, but these people are to believe that these things think - hell they think the AI is smarter than themselves and defer all judgement. I wish it remained an internet phenomena but I’ve met too many true believers already 😑
/anecdote
Guy in one of my code classes, would not just fucking tell me if he wrote his code, or the AI did. I knew the AI did, because you don’t come asking why it’s not working when he didn’t declare any variables, big red error “variable not declared”. It was the end of that semester, I was there with him every single period. The audacity to have me debug the shitbot’s chicken scratch, claim its super helpful, but also cover its dumb ass by being an even bigger dumbass and fail probably the easiest javascript course you could’ve asked for. I am honestly still in awe.
Boy am I glad I didn’t go to school (and don’t have to teach) during AI.
Back in my day you knew people were copy and pasting from stack overflow because Python would complain about mixed indentation and there’d be comments in only one function.
I do feel for the TAs having to read our printed assignment and hand written code on tests.
Still better than AI tbh, depending on your source.
Joe Rogan: No thanks. Hank Green or ElectroBOOM: Yes please.
Sometimes I worry I’m too lazy. Then I read headlines like this.
Honestly, I think that overall it takes more effort verifying ChatGPT answers than actually researching.
I don’t think the people using ChatGPT like that actual verify its answers.
I suspect they don’t even know its answers cannot be trusted.
I worry that people who rely on AI will become skilled in making it seem like they aren’t. Fortunately a lot of them don’t seem very good at that yet.
I’ve done a few job interviews where it was very clear the interviewee was using Chat GPT or something to answer almost every question. But there may soon come a day when it’s not obvious, and then we waste time hiring someone incapable of critical thinking who types proprietary company information into an LLM prompt.
If you were reading this headline at work u might still be lazy doe
The day I get paid the same as the fuckwit c suits is the day I’ll allow someone to call me “lazy” for doing something else on the clock…
I don’t understand your comment, I’m actually a lazy person and I find it easier to research by “hand” than to ask AI. What is your point?
don’t mind his tiktok addled brain
I didnt ask Ai before i made this comment.
Its a natural home grown comment, 100% AI free, from one of my favorite braincells.
Username checks out.
We still at war with Eastasia?
Always have been my friend.
When I make comments like this, I always feel like I need to just write something AI can’t figure out to extra prove it.
In the phrase pizza puzzle, there’s 4 letter Zs, and 1 E! I promise!
ChatGPT is the ultimate ‘cultural product of the postmodern era,’ and very few of us have been inoculated with a theory of mind that distinguishes language from thought," Foster concluded in his newsletter.
The best description of this distinction I’ve encountered was in a science fiction novel - Blindsight by Peter Watts.
Hell, it’s getting hard to avoid. DuckDuckGo now has an AI answer at the top of search results. When doing technical searches, it’s usually just regurgitating the top StackOverflow answer, but there is always the problem that it could be regurgitating a bad answer. Or badly regurgitating an answer. So, it’s usually best to ignore it and read the answer it’s trying to give and then research what the person actually said and if it’s right.
at least ddg respects the “never show me this” toggle.
You can turn off ai results
Set this as an alternative search engine
Note the ‘%25s’ is supposed to be just ‘%s’. Dunno’ why lemmy adds 25 in there… URL encoding maybe?
Correct, %25 is the escape for a percent sign
Thankfully, that option can be disabled. I still find DDG far more useful than Google these days. My work laptop is a chromebook, and despite that I’ve been using DDG because it gives me more actual sites - not just links to sites that want me to pay in order to have access to them.
