Just for context, this is the developer that spectacularly crashed out of the kernel team after Greg KH kept rejecting his attempts to submit new features to a release candidate.
When his PRs were rejected and he was told to submit them in a later version he turned to social media brigading and attacking the kernel team. He did eventually get a response from Linus though…
In response to Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin’s call for Torvalds to “pipe up with an authoritative answer” to resolve the device driver impasse, and Martin’s defense of “shaming on social media” as a way to counter the hostility of Linux maintainers to Rust code, Torvalds dismissed the approach and took aim at Martin.
“How about you accept the fact that maybe the problem is you,” said Torvalds
It’s completely unsurprising to see this kind of unprofessional post from him where he confidently repeats the same copy pasted uneducated takes and misinformation on generative models.
What exactly do you envision as an endgame to that line of thinking?
Neural network-based machine learning isn’t a technology that’s going to be uninvented. Clearly people are using it and it is effective in a lot of fields (AlphaFold, for example).
Do you think that you can be rude and abrasive enough that the entire world collectively forgets Transformer-based models exist? What is your idea of a perfect ending here?
It just doesn’t make sense.
Yes, generative models suck and their output is bad a lot of the time. That’s a reasonable take.
Declaring that you’re done with politeness and professionalism when discussing machine learning is an extremist viewpoint. If it’s not a topic that you’re willing to engage in good faith conversation about, what is left? Violence?
Just for context, this is the developer that spectacularly crashed out of the kernel team after Greg KH kept rejecting his attempts to submit new features to a release candidate.
When his PRs were rejected and he was told to submit them in a later version he turned to social media brigading and attacking the kernel team. He did eventually get a response from Linus though…
https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/07/linus_torvalds_rust_driver/
It’s completely unsurprising to see this kind of unprofessional post from him where he confidently repeats the same copy pasted uneducated takes and misinformation on generative models.
What exactly do you envision as an endgame to that line of thinking?
Neural network-based machine learning isn’t a technology that’s going to be uninvented. Clearly people are using it and it is effective in a lot of fields (AlphaFold, for example).
Do you think that you can be rude and abrasive enough that the entire world collectively forgets Transformer-based models exist? What is your idea of a perfect ending here?
It just doesn’t make sense.
Yes, generative models suck and their output is bad a lot of the time. That’s a reasonable take.
Declaring that you’re done with politeness and professionalism when discussing machine learning is an extremist viewpoint. If it’s not a topic that you’re willing to engage in good faith conversation about, what is left? Violence?