• SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’d usually agree with this sentiment, but the MAGAsphere actually seems to be breaking with him on this one. The chuds are upset about this, and it might not go away so easily, especially now that he’s attacking his base over this.

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      Well one of the things that nobody seems to have considered is that Elon has a bot army, an AI, and Twitter he can turn against Trump.

      In addition, and it may or may not be a coincidence, but he’s not as buddy buddy with Putin as he once was.

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        I absolutely believe Putin is fueling this. President Vance is a collaborative agent for Peter Thiel and the Heritage Foundation. Heritage is a longtime Putin ally. The question is, will MAGA stop questioning their echo chamber after Trump is put out to rot? That is the gamble, and they are going for it.

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          I absolutely believe Putin is fueling this.

          Yeah, but liberals believe that Putin is behind everything, so that’s not surprising

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            … because he has a ton of global influence??? He’s former KGB, one of the greatest misinformation diseminators of history. If you don’t believe that, you likely consume some of it.

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              Ok. That doesn’t mean he’s behind literally everything the way liberals make out. The KGB were second rate information manipulators compared to domestic US operations anyway.

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                You are making a strawman argument. I didn’t say I am liberal, nor did I say Putin does everything. I said Putin is likely behind this, because Putin definitely has compromat on Trump. I also said he has global influence, which he does. These statements are obvious, supported by overwhelming evidence, and not so broad as your strawman

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                    Those are not examples of me making fallacies, those are examples of me not writing more content than I did. You made a strawman, actively constructing a lie.

                    It is certainly well evidenced, as I said, that Putin is a disinfo maestro. I simply am not doing your research for you.

                    I will not be replying to you point by point because your points are hollow and repetitive. Enjoy fighting for a genocidal autocrat online.

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            Just because we think Putin is behind everything doesn’t mean he’s not behind this exact thing. The same way just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean you’re not being followed