Its been a while since ive been ratio’d so hard - but no I’m not a professional or a shill. I support Mamdani, donate monthly to all my local progressives and prominent ones afar such as Sanders and AOC, and volunteer and participate in my local politics such as yimby and stronger town initiatives when my schedule allows. I put my money and my actions behind my thoughts, not just my words.
My criticism is based on principle and made in the hopes of improving his message.
My point is not that the policy is bad, I think it’d be good if he removed the language targetting a race of people, but that his targeting parameters are racist, and in my book, a person who creates racist policy is a racist, a person who thinks race is a valid way to determine people and policy, and I oppose that. I oppose racists.
What I am saying is that, if the same neighborhood is targeted, because it is rich and under-enforced compared to other neighborhoods - that is fine by me.
But if the neighborhood is targeted not only because it is rich, but because it has a predominantly white community, that is not fine by me.
Its a “nitpicker” nuance, I get it, but one is racist policy, and one is not.
I want to end racism, not continue to allow the pendulum to swing in a never ending tit for tat that reaffirms the racist core of our society.
Gotcha, your issue is it straight up says “raise taxes for white neighborhoods” without the needed context of “current tax law has advantaged predominantly white areas, and so this bringing their tax responsibility to a value that more fairly represents their usage”
I’m sorry to be so late with my reaction, but I really appreciate your time and effort to type out a thoughtfull response to my rage-post.
I get where you are coming from, and salute your efforts supporting progressive politics. Your reaction initially struck me the wrong way, somehow, hence my response. I can see where you are coming from, and you are right to stand by your principles and wanting to improve the message. Still, it might have been better to make very clear where you stand and what the purpose of the initial response was, it came over, on me at least, like you found this one point and wanted to use it to invalidate Mamdani’s entire platform.
Justice can not be served for black people or other racial minorities if we pull up the wealth ladder and tax them as they get money. The system was racist and allowed white people to get ahead if you tax everyone equally who do you harm the poorer and newer wealthy people. If you don’t take from a subset of the population you harm
We had a racist system that allowed wealth to go to white people. We eliminated the slave labor 164 years ago and tradition of viewing and treating other races as less than(in theory 61 years ago). But the white already wealthy people already own everything and have generational wealth. We have not had a thing that helped black people specifically. They were suppose to get 40 acres and a mule. A generation hasn’t even passed of being able to discriminate against races.
If you pull up the ladder of wealth you are only hurting new wealth which would be proportionally more black people versus targeting old wealth which would proportionally be white people.
Lastly Mamdani said he was describing the neighborhood he was targeting with his changes to taxing. He wasn’t going to put language into law that it had to be white people.
jezus, are you a professional nitpicker or just some shill trying to discredited mr. Mamdani?
In said document he carefully explains that New York tax law is racist to begin with; https://s28299.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/CAH-tax-lien-sale-report-final.pdf, and he wants to end that system so everyone has more equal opportunities.
He wants to END racist housing policies, not start a fucking race war.
Its been a while since ive been ratio’d so hard - but no I’m not a professional or a shill. I support Mamdani, donate monthly to all my local progressives and prominent ones afar such as Sanders and AOC, and volunteer and participate in my local politics such as yimby and stronger town initiatives when my schedule allows. I put my money and my actions behind my thoughts, not just my words.
My criticism is based on principle and made in the hopes of improving his message.
My point is not that the policy is bad, I think it’d be good if he removed the language targetting a race of people, but that his targeting parameters are racist, and in my book, a person who creates racist policy is a racist, a person who thinks race is a valid way to determine people and policy, and I oppose that. I oppose racists.
What I am saying is that, if the same neighborhood is targeted, because it is rich and under-enforced compared to other neighborhoods - that is fine by me.
But if the neighborhood is targeted not only because it is rich, but because it has a predominantly white community, that is not fine by me.
Its a “nitpicker” nuance, I get it, but one is racist policy, and one is not.
I want to end racism, not continue to allow the pendulum to swing in a never ending tit for tat that reaffirms the racist core of our society.
Justice can be achieved without racism.
Gotcha, your issue is it straight up says “raise taxes for white neighborhoods” without the needed context of “current tax law has advantaged predominantly white areas, and so this bringing their tax responsibility to a value that more fairly represents their usage”
I’m sorry to be so late with my reaction, but I really appreciate your time and effort to type out a thoughtfull response to my rage-post. I get where you are coming from, and salute your efforts supporting progressive politics. Your reaction initially struck me the wrong way, somehow, hence my response. I can see where you are coming from, and you are right to stand by your principles and wanting to improve the message. Still, it might have been better to make very clear where you stand and what the purpose of the initial response was, it came over, on me at least, like you found this one point and wanted to use it to invalidate Mamdani’s entire platform.
As a white person.
Justice can not be served for black people or other racial minorities if we pull up the wealth ladder and tax them as they get money. The system was racist and allowed white people to get ahead if you tax everyone equally who do you harm the poorer and newer wealthy people. If you don’t take from a subset of the population you harm
We had a racist system that allowed wealth to go to white people. We eliminated the slave labor 164 years ago and tradition of viewing and treating other races as less than(in theory 61 years ago). But the white already wealthy people already own everything and have generational wealth. We have not had a thing that helped black people specifically. They were suppose to get 40 acres and a mule. A generation hasn’t even passed of being able to discriminate against races.
If you pull up the ladder of wealth you are only hurting new wealth which would be proportionally more black people versus targeting old wealth which would proportionally be white people.
Lastly Mamdani said he was describing the neighborhood he was targeting with his changes to taxing. He wasn’t going to put language into law that it had to be white people.
Actually, it can’t. Since racism caused the injustice, identifying the victims and restoring their losses is impossible without using it.
The pendulum swing (post-dampening) is the only practical way to get to justice.
This is especially true since we can’t know we’ve achieved societal justice without some measurement delay.