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    Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera

    I’m sure the dead would take great solace that their killer didn’t also have real estate ambitions.

    leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted

    Biden was not known for standing up to Israel, to put it mildly. When Harris was asked what she’d do differently than Biden, her answer was “there is not a thing that comes to mind.” She later amended that to “what’s the difference between Joe Biden and me? … I’m going to have a Republican in my cabinet”.

    LGBTQ+ rights

    The “T” there being the people the Dems immediately tried to throw under the bus when they lost?

    Economic Inequality

    I mean, look at all the love and support the party is showing Mamdani after he kicked Cuomo’s ass in the primary 🙄

    Look, I get your point, and I voted for Harris (grudgingly), but until we primary enough of these crusty old Republican-lites in party leadership these losses are just going to get worse. They yelled and screamed (rightly) about how Democracy was on the line, and when their option was “save Democracy or move right” they chose the latter.

    Respectfully, I don’t see the sense in complaining about “wedge issues” and then turning around and driving wedges between you and other people trying to get the party’s head out of its ass.

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      I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit. Respectfully, of course.

      Sounds like one is complicit in genocide with respect to both climate change and Ukraine.

      (by the way: you love mamdani; if they’re all the same, why did he run as a Democrat? You should hate him too, right? So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?)

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        I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit.

        Hence your substantive engagement on what I did mention?

        you love mamdani

        Never claimed this.

        If they’re all the same

        Never claimed this.

        You should hate him too, right?

        None of this is about hate, it’s about which policy decisions are better than others.

        So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?

        Again, never claimed.

        Everything you’re saying comes across as being less about “how do we improve things” and more “I need someone to be angry at.” I would propose directing that anger at the politicians instead of your fellow voters.

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          Hence your substantive engagement on what I did mention?

          I dish back that which has been dished out.

          Never claimed this.

          Implied.

          Never claimed this.

          So you are saying Democrats and Harris would’ve been better?

          None of this is about hate, it’s about which policy decisions are better than others.

          And Harris had overall better policy decisions, correct?

          Again, never claimed.

          So you agree Harris had overall better policy decisions, correct?

          Everything you’re saying comes across as being less about “how do we improve things” and more “I need someone to be angry at.” I would propose directing that anger at the politicians instead of your fellow voters.

          The two notions aren’t mutually-exclusive. You see, in order to improve things, fools asserting defeatist false equivalence fallacy rhetoric need to learn from their disastrous mistakes. Because you’re the one responsible, that is making you a bit uncomfortable, I suspect.

          I would propose making fewer logical fallacies next election cycle.