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    Zendaya was great in spiderman but she’s the absolute worst choice for chani. Her “too cool for school” sarcastic persona doesn’t fit with a primitive tribal religious fanatic at all.

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      To non US people who aren’t exposed to the same celebrity overexposure (unless it’s by choice) and have no particular opinion on Zendaya, she’s ok. Haven’t seen part 2 though.

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          I was raised in a deeply conservative fanatically religious culture and I put out a sarcastic and “too cool for school” energy a lot of the time. What do you think counterculture is? I remember in the movie she’s got a whole social circle of people who are on the same page as her.

          Personally I think Zendaya plays Chani pretty well, and her character doesn’t feel out of place to me.

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            You had access to a counter culture, though. All the fremen know is other fremen and maybe the occasional harkkonen. I appreciate what you’re saying, but I still feel like it doesn’t seem organic in context.

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      She’s a sassy, rebellious New Yorker, when Chani is mature, strong and feminine AF. Just because they’re 15 doesn’t mean they’re supposed to be played like any Western “f u mom!” kid… Denis really dropped the ball there, but he’s more of visual director than a storyteller, I guess.

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      It’s a relief then that Dune is one of the dumbest fucking stories of all time and casting doesn’t matter.

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          Ironic comment, since Dune’s story is supernatural nonsense written by a misogynistic homophobe who probably does think the Bible is the greatest book of all time.

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            I’d not looked into Frank before now, but I’ve read 2.5 of the dune books. It’s weird to see he was a self described conservative and libertarian. The whole dune story seems to mock everything he stands for politically. It’s like he was completely unaware of the power structures he was writing about exist across all US (and non-US) political parties.

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              The story glorifies a eugenically engineered monarchy and waxes poetic about the evils of homosexuality.

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                Yeah, but that isn’t why people like it. Like Harry potter and Wizarding world of the transphobe.

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                  You expressed surprise that Herbert is a rabid conservative. I pointed out that the book you claim to like is literally a celebration of fascism.

                  Yeah, but that isn’t why people like it.

                  Correct. People like Dune because it’s the biggest book they’ve read, not because they were paying attention to the prose or narrative quality of its boot-licking and insane plot line.

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          Although the movies are better than the books, the actual story is spectacularly awful. Have you ever had someone try to explain it to you? It’s unhinged. And the book is so poorly written from a literary perspective. Dune is Twilight for Gen-X’ers.

          Frank Herbert is such a narcissist he actually accused Star Wars of ripping him off.

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              Yes, but the book also became really popular among the Gen X crowd, whose hunger for sci fi was fueled by things like Star Wars.

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            This is just a sad take. The writing is brilliantly grounded in reality for a fantastical story. It’s fricken weird AF, but many of us are here for that. It’s not for everyone, and that’s okay if you don’t like it, but calling it poorly written is infantile.

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              I actually really like the story of Dune, but I kind of have to agree that the writing leaves a lot to be desired. The fact that Herbert constantly switches perspectives with no indication in the middle of chapters, or sometimes even in the middle of paragraphs, drives me up the wall. I almost couldn’t finish them because of that.

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                So, just some advice, avoid Tales of the Malazan Book of the Fallen at all costs. I’m totally okay with not being spoon fed every detail of what’s happening as I read, but that’s not for everyone either. I first read them when I was a teen some 30 years ago and never found it hard to keep track of anything. I was too eager to find out what was going to happen next! The whole story is flush with character nuance so I could usually grasp who was saying/thinking what once things got going

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              I’ve noticed a lot of infantile and absurdly maximalist takes on Lemmy lately. it’s kind of souring me on the project.

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              If you think Dune is well-written, wait until you read a modern sci-fi novel. The shittiest space opera would probably blow your mind.

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            I agree. Really dumb stuff. Certainly not watching the Villeneuve movies for the plot. Cults, royalty, magic, psychic powers, people turning into worms, guiding star travel via ESP…geez

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      Those who consider themselves White Knights in a Shiny Armour. We have too many of them thinking that only they know how things should be and that only they are bearers of the ideal moral codex.

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    Educate an old and out of touch person please:

    Is anus licking standard practice now? Is this presumed as obvious currently?

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      I wouldn’t say standard, however I tongue punched a few fart boxs and I swore I never would.

      Then one day a girl with an ass so fine comes strutting her way into your life that changes everything, so who am I to say no?

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        Such exquisite poetry, I’ve seldom heard before. I’m going to get this comment printed and framed.

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        I’m confused. Who is supposed to enjoy it, the licker or the lickee? It just seems like a nasty experience for everyone involved, especially with the enema I would require to get near the poop hole with my tongue.

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          Yes. Even my asexual ass gets pleasure as the giver. Quick way to make them squirm.

          If it’s a woman you’re like right there anyways. Guy takes a bit more effort tbh.

          What are you gonna look at it and not evenbsay hello?

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          Both parties enjoy it, in my experience.

          I’m very clean and so is my partner. I’ve eaten their ass after a rave before, it ain’t no big thang

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            People really draw this line with sexual things like bodily fluids aren’t coming out of these holes.

            Anyone who wouldn’t lick the sweat off their partners face is a coward.

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              The difference is that this hole contains a lot more E. Coli and my nose has evolved to be extremely sensitive to the smell of it because of the very real biohazard

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        There was a time when oral sex was considered atypical and deviant. Same with anal sex. So it’s understandable that “the norm” might change quite rapidly.

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    1. Who are they talking about?
    2. I hope they never get a partner because who know where their lips have been too

    (Thinking through that last one they probably want a “pure” virgin)

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      Since you missed it, let me explain the joke. Ahem: Kylie Jenner is a despicable billionaire who exploits poor girls for money. Touching anything that she has touched, including a hot guy, is disgusting. That’s the joke.

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      Timothee Chalamet is in a relationship with Kylie Jenner. The character Zendaya plays in Dune kisses Timothee’s character.