Japan
The same place that had used panties in vending machines and this is somehow shocking.
There’s still a difference between a piece of clothing that may or may not have been worn by anonymous women and creations using real people without their knowledge or consent. Not trying to defend those vending machines but these aren’t the same in terms of results and potential effects on the victims.
I think this is more a comment on the particular strain of misogyny that pervades Japanese society and not being surprised that a country which has women only metro carriages out of necessity to prevent sexual harassment is also having a problem with AI generated deep fakes. Though the latter is also a problem in many other countries which have access to these image models.
That’s a fair point but, as you already mentioned, deepfakes are a pretty universal problem unfortunately. The type of misogyny in Japan compared to say US or Europe doesn’t seem to affect that much (if at all). Either way, it’s a terrible practice without sufficient ways to combat it at the moment which makes me pretty worried about how things will evolve in the future - in terms of “content”, affecting lives of victims and laws that will come out of this (some probably made in the worst possible knee-jerk reactionary ways).
Photoshops were a thing before AI. Nobody cares because its just a weird thing creepy do in private.
Photoshop requires at least some skill and doesn’t allow for mass production of fakes the way generative AI does. Same problem, different scale.
Pasting a face over a body in photoshop is just as easy as snapping a polaroid of someone and pasting their face on a porn mag. AI just makes it faster.
I tend to lean more towards the problem being distribution rather than creation, so I’m curious about your opinion on this: Is there a difference between me imaging a sexual act with someone without their consent vs writing/drawing/deepfaking it?
In my opinion absolutely. Whatever happens in your head stays in your head and doesn’t affect the other person unless you take active steps for that to happen. Images or videos on the other hand can not only be distributed far easier, even accidentally, but also have a way higher chance of affecting people’s lives (how can you disprove you didn’t take nude photos of yourself for example? let alone make people believe it). They can lead to loss of reputation, harassment, bullying and serious mental issues for the victims (trust issues, anxiety, depression, self-harm) - imagination can’t really do that on its own.
Perhaps distribution is the real problem but easy access to tools that can create convincing results quickly and without effort makes said distribution way more probable.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. It sounds like it’s the potential for harm/damage rather than the act itself that makes it an issue for you?
I still think the act itself is pretty gross but yeah, the harm is the important part for me - and I don’t mean that just in case of sexual images. It’s also a problem in terms of content created to affect people’s reputation in other ways or influence the sociopolitical situation (something that’s already happening around the world).
The harmful potential of generative AI is on a completely different scale than photoshopped images already mentioned in this thread by others. That doesn’t mean genAI can’t be used in fun and interesting ways but stuff like what’s described in the linked article is a big no no for me.
I’d really love to believe the narrative that the widespread adoption of LLMs will lead to a renaissance of technological breakthroughs, but deep down I know that it’s ultimately going to amplify and enable the absolute worst of what humanity has to offer.
I got really into so a few years back, partly as a hobby, partly to help me learn to code, partly out of the belief that knowing this could be good for a career transition.
About six months in the realization hit me that this isn’t one of those job creating inventions. It’s a job destroying invention.
I still tinker around with so a lot and even at its current development I think it’s a really, really fucking cool tool if you’re running a model locally and have control over it, but i honestly believe it will kill capitalism, and that it’s going to be bloody, bloody fight.
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I mean, given that every search engine is pretty much fucking useless now I usually don’t even bother using them and to right to DeepSeek when I need knowledge.
And it truly is incredible to be able to ask questions, get answers, and then go back and forth with the model to get as deep as you need to go. There’s moments, when it works, when it feels like interacting with the computer on Star Trek.
Buts it’s wrong SO OFTEN. Which doesn’t bother me so much because I’m not a fucking idiot and can cross reference what I learn, test the answers, and find other sources.
You have to be a special kind of stupid to take it all literally and at face value.
But then again the bible is still widely read so I really think people underestimate just how fucking stupid people are.
enable the absolute worst of what humanity has to offer.
can we call it a reality check? we think of humans as so great and important and unique for quite a while now while the world is spiraling downwards. maybe humans arent so great after all. like what is art? ppl vibe with slob music but birds cant vote. how does that make sense? if one can watch AI slob (and we all will with the constant improvements in ai) and like it, well maybe our taste of art is not any better than what a bird can do and like. i hope LLM will lead to a breakthrough in understanding what type of animal we really are.
Hopefully they’re at least mature looking women.
I applaud your optimism
They could still be sarcastic… Beware!
That’s impossible because there is no tag. When you see a statement on the internet you need to automatically assume the poster truly believes it or else you open the door to the intolerant.
Nothing like subtle racism. I wonder what kind of boots the woman will be wearing? Perhaps tasty ones?
There is nothing racist about this. It was debated in Japan in parliament and in courts in 1970, 2003, 2009, 2011, 2013, etc. Both UNICEFF and the US State Department have made public statements and reports about the poor state of child gratuity and smut originating from Japan and of crimes against children in general with the idol industry. In a public opinion poll 86% of Japanese respondents said they needed tighter restrictions on manga and anime obscenity involving minors.
The worst kind of people are you who ignore real problems with the world and society under the false pretense of fairness. If you really treated them fairly you would hold them to the same standard as everybody else.
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Don’t let fear of being “racist” keep you from calling a spade a spade. Japan has a track record when it comes to issues such as these.
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“Never”? This is literally the only comment of mine you’ve ever seen 😂 bro, don’t tell me there’s not pleeenty of criticism of the Catholic church going around. By far the most scorned religious institution in the West.
Now what does this have to do with criticism of a pervasive issue in Japanese culture? Do we have to attach a list of every problematic institution every time criticism is given, or do you just have a weak ass mental? Bring an argument rather than ad hominem and we might actually have something relevant to talk about. Otherwise you’re just a tosser.
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Huh? I’m not even from the UK or a royalist 😂 what is up with your stupid assumptions? Go touch some grass fam
Could they maybe deepreal their way out of having to censor the hentai already?
DeepCreamPy
Lmfao
Yet, nobody is actually doing it! I mean doing anything about it like doing it. But I mean, it’s happening so somebody must be doing it. I don’t know man, I think for sure there has to be somebody doing it.
The deepfake concern is moot imo.
If there’s fake porn of every celebrity in existence then no one photo can be trusted as real, no one different or more put upon than anyone else, all in the same boat.
sees a naked photo of a celeb or hear them say something so offbase that it can’t be true
meh, probably fake…
forever.
Ngl, I’ve been tempted to find one of those things and use it on a picture of myself just to see how accurate they get.
But it would have to be totally offline, and even then I wouldn’t actually do it
Don’t worry buddy, send me a picture and I can do it for you, free of charge!
Well, how about a cock pic?
Thanks for sharing your perspective. It sounds like your main issue is the potential damage that could be caused and not the act itself?
The pick AI deepfake would be ai tor website where anyone can upload two photos and watch first being fucked by second.
The resolution on those is so poor that I can’t imagine these becoming popular unless they figure out how to get them much less pixelated.
And most of the porn is pixelated anyway? At this point I’d assume anything pixelated is Pavlovian and arousing to most Japanese.
Box blur just hits different if you are Japanese
I unironically had that
So that’s the trick!.. I just need bigger pixels!
clicked link about a dead pigeon… was expecting/hoping to see some deepfake examples.
