

This is great. If I can dumb it down a bit here, instead of trying to get someone to step out of those emotions just step in with them.


This is great. If I can dumb it down a bit here, instead of trying to get someone to step out of those emotions just step in with them.


This is a horse to water thing. You don’t have control of the outcome, you can only provide John the tools to keep his job. Most managers have a list of folks they tried their best with, but it didn’t work out. I look back on those folks with a great deal of sadness, but it’s about the team. If you told him how to benefit the team and he chooses not to that it’s on him.


As a manager and somebody who enjoys being able to pay my bills, wouldn’t mess with any of this. I have had subordinates take interest in developing a personal relationship with me. In some cases I share that feeling, but I still tell them as their manager it would not be appropriate to proceed due to the potential impact in the workplace. Quick way to get accused of giving special treatment and moved or terminated. Very hard to hide.
If you and Jane are in an equal level role or one of you is willing to quit or change roles, go for it.
John’s personal problems sound like they are effecting his work performance. If you are his supervisor you are responsible for handling that in some way. If you let too much slide because you feel bad for him, this will go from a problem with John to a problem with you. It is John’s responsibility to manage his personal life and be able to do his job within the expectations of the company. If you are sharing that the expectations aren’t be met in similar ways multiple times, cut the cord.
Regarding your expectation of John taking issue with you and Jane becoming a thing, kinda depends what Jane wants if you ask me. And I’m sure it’s scary how John would react being rejected but again, that’s on John to deal with. I’d just be straight up about it. Sorry man she’s into me and I’m Into her. That’s bad news, but if he can’t handle that in a mature manner that’s on him. He’ll end up quitting or getting terminated for an emotional outburst. It’s sad, but it isn’t your responsibility to control how he responds. Personal problems are personal problems. Generally, managers that are managing lower level managers understand when somebody on the team just doesn’t click or behaves in a way that wasn’t within your control or purview. They have been through the same shit themselves.
Ensure you are operating within the confines of your handbook/guidelines if you want to keep your job. That’s the biggest thing.
Expect this to become an HR issue if John doesn’t immediately quit. I would avoid moving forward with an attempt to terminate John after he identifies the you and Jane situation as that may look retaliatory. Either get HR or another manager involved to ensure John is clearly being terminated for valid reasons and that other people are involved in that decision.
If you want to go the more sinister route (some people do). Terminate John with solid documentation on the performance issues. Negative attitude possibly. Consult your handbook for options, but ultimately you can terminate him and wait on moving forward with Jane until he’s gone.
If you take nothing else from this, consult the handbook. If you want to keep your job all the information is in there. You can get it from HR in the event you don’t already have a copy.


Not typically what you’d think of when somebody says “mom’s computer,” but this is exactly what happens when my GPU overheats. Monitors stay on with black screen and no response from keyboard input.
This happens to me once in a while with Fedora KDE. Usually right after a kernel update and I can resolve by going back to the previous kernel for a few days. Always guessed it was the AMD GPU driver.


I manage a team and came to say this same thing. If the topic is a lesson the whole team can benefit from, I bring the whole team in. The more obstacles that can be resolved without my involvement the better. Sometimes that means bringing the whole team in on a mistake, too. I do my best to ensure it’s framed as simply as that though. A mistake to learn from. As well as ensuring the employee is in a good headspace to share that moment. It’s not a punishment. Mistakes happen.
This may not be the case in your situation, but something to consider.
I came here to say this also. First bad update and then both would be broken and pretty stressful for your friend…
Pile in if I’m wrong, but I dual boot win11 and linux it works fine. The only condition is it has to be separate physical disk. I wasn’t able to use the same hard drive with just partitions had to be completely different drives.
I was over here thinking what if somebody didn’t even know that was what she was doing or that they were supposed to say thank you. Now that poor person will be left wondering what even happened because her resolution (picking it up and putting it back) provides no opportunity to learn.


Did you try dual boot with one drive? Windows will fuck that up.
I didn’t have any intention of arguing…I was curious what you didn’t like about it. You’re entitled to your opinion.
What did Fedora do to hurt you so much?


GN went offensive on a company critical to US national security interests and were contacted by the secret service. Makes sense.


That’s wild, I’m on Fedora KDE and haven’t noticed any of these issues so far… Opens pretty fast, finds what I’m looking for. I didn’t see the UI bug he’s talking about with items being misaligned. I must just be lucky.
Yeah! They sleep in trees and when it gets in the 40s something about the cold causes their muscles to stop working and they just fall out of the trees.


Kernel 6.16.4 had a bug that caused packet loss. Patched in 6.16.5. Looks like Bazzite just updated (today?) from 6.16.4 to 6.17.5.
EDIT: Adding link talking about the bug
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/talk-kernel-6-16-3-causes-intermittent-network-issues/163344
How on earth does somebody try to commit gun theft during open hours at a major outdoor retail chain? My local Bass Pro has all the guns behind a counter and like 4-6 employees working that counter and the stock room behind it at all times.


The modem. At some point ISPs started charging a rental fee for their provided modem. When I noticed it was 12 dollars a month, not sure what it might have gone up to by now. You can buy a decent modem on the lower side of a hundred ish dollars. Pays for itself in the first year.


Piggybacking on this good comment. The handful of doctors and counselors I’ve met always say an addiction is defined as something that impedes other areas/responsibilities of your life. If you are consistently skipping important things like taking care of children, going to work/school, basic hygiene because you can’t stop playing roblox… then that is an addiction.


This is the level of upset they want you. They want us to say things like “why have another election”
The system wasn’t perfect before. It’s an institution designed to cater to basic needs and maintain peace for hundreds of millions of people. It’s unreasonable to expect perfection with that many moving parts. The system of government should continue being modified as problems are discovered. Completely dismantling it because one guy found a way to fuck it up is not the answer. Getting that guy out and unfucking it back to at least where we were before is what’s needed right now.
He wants you angry. He’s actively trying to insight civil war. Terms like “radical” get thrown around now to justify violence later. He wants us to think we need to dismantle the entire government. We don’t. We need to get him out and put it back together. I fully understand the government didn’t serve all people equally prior to trump and there were parts that were broken, but seriously was it as bad as what we’re going through now? Personally, I don’t think so. Democrat or Republican I’d take any past president over what we have now.
Sometimes people ask others instead of googling things because it offers an opportunity to socialize. We all know google is an option. I get what you’re saying, but it’s sad to see this described as a burden.