I’m assuming you’re either western or liberal, both?

Aside from the fact that the prophet arguably isn’t worshipped because of his child abuse and it happend centuries ago (maybe you found instances of more recent child abuse), you don’t need to look far away from home to find violent and regressive people that act in the name of religion. I’m talking about misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, racism etc. I get it, maybe its too difficult and these problems can’t be solved. Still, its unnecessary to put your self on the high ground of moral righteusness. Muslim people have problems to solve, I’m sure you do too.

I’ve heard something like this, but imo it’s only partly true. Why would anyone want to “rule the world” as you said? To me it seems like the feudal system, from wich colonialism was born, concentrated so many resources in the hands of very few people. It’s not just that europe was regularly ravaged by famines. It was the system on top of the disasters that worsened the scarcity situation, also with kings going to war on a yearly basis. This is the kind of trauma that lasted for centuries, and got embedded in our culture. I mean, to this day the relations of unequal exchange are still standing, as if that was just how trade works.

I don’t see anyone else in history trying to do imperialism, not even china or india in their golden period. And although even them had their own feudal periods, i struggle to believe it was as disastrous as in europe. Their rulers didn’t feel the need to conquer the world

glad to know you’re not generalizing, and correct me if i’m wrong but this is how i interpret your reply: some muslim people are really uneducated. Clearly these governements have no intention of educating their people (btw i can see that in a sense in my western country as well, the education system is collapsing figuratevely and physically).

My own conclusion: what you said is true, and we’ll have to see how the situation will turn out. We have no control over our own governments let alone those abroad; unless nato is going to bring peace and democracy yet again. We saw how that turned out in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, and probably others that i don’t remember

i’m glad you know that. Apparently poland isn’t on the same page. I doubt he’s the only one thinking like that https://youtu.be/asGHu2NzvbI Sorry i don’t have any more sources, but if you’ve followed european immigration policies in the slightest, you might have noticed that most middle eastern are rejected at the borders. Many times the skin color is no different from southern europeans, yet they die by the hundreds in the mediterranean.

Thanks for clarifying that you’re not racist, but its curious that you describe the islamic world as savage, again centering yourself in the west as the enlightened and modern person. And who decided we are at the center of the world? Colonialist slave owners?

I didn’t mean to come across as someone who would turn a blind eye on any atrocities. Its just that the instability, and therefore violence that ravages the Middle East (maybe that’s what you mena by savage?), more often than not comes from coups or the imf restructuring those economies on behalf of the US and the EU. I have no explanation for the Saudis, not sure how they’ve got to that point. I don’t turn a blind eye on this violence, I just try my best to not put such a big group of people in the “bad” box. (at least thats how i make sense of this)

Also i’m 100% sure, at least most of the poor nations have the capacity to develop, and we can see that recently with at least some diplomatic ties being reinstated or made stronger (Iran - Saudi Arabia - Syria - …), and trade routes that escape the sanctions, which affect a really long list of poor countries. For a problem that is out of our control, its weird to expect that everything gets solved in 2 seconds, with rationality and friendship. Does this make sense or should i back this with some sources?

I would add that successfully creating the vaccine is not enough. I mean, it has to be injected on a global scale, if not it keeps evolving into new variants, right? But even if there are enough shots available, they’re still in the hands of corporations. And as we saw in the past two years, many poor countries didn’t get enough to vaccinate even half of their people. Solving the problem doesn’t give as much revenue as this scenario.

thanks for the news

The only ones who have, so far, actually used nuclear weapons were the British with the depleted uranium bullets. Although to my surprise, these are not considered nuclear weapons by the BBC, even though the Ukrainian soil will probably stay poisoned for quite some time. I hope nobody used to live in the area, because someone would probably try to get back to their old house

Or did i miss the news and the Russians used nuclear weapons?

Treating people from poorer countries as children or “undeveloped” while not questioning the belief that we westerners are at the center of the world. Also don’t question the inability of other peoples to develop on their own, because we are the only ones who have the brain to do so? Sorry, I’m struggling to wrap my head around western chauvinists.

They are undeveloped, because obviously our culture is superior, everyone should accept it. Ignore the economic part of the “superiority” or the legacy of imperialism.

This is how racism is born, in a nutshell.

I would add that nonetheless, every sovereign country can and should stand up for itself. Also this is not just a couple Qurans burned, its racism more in general on the rise here in europe.

Kuwait just tryna save the day. Meanwhile, Iraq is a lot more enthusiast (if a country can’t behave decently, its ambassador might as well move out).

even a slave owner had that much common sense. I mean, there are better people to quote from but i think we got the point

only three have been recovered and formally identified. shudders

a very powerful man takes advantage of his position against some of the most powerless individuals available? no way! Nonetheless, whenever i bring this up irl the general reaction is dismissal, which is kinda confusing.

is this some kind of quote from The Deprogram?

me too, i’m somewhat of an anarcho-bidenist myself /s

i’m sure you’re talking about the US. Waging war over 10 countries or more in the last 20 years and staging coups. To all the civillians who became victims, thats quite a terrorist policy.

Seems like he had either financial difficulties, or was going to face “military disciplinary action” in the us. How do i link a news article?

i’m starting to think they’re not interested in permanent suppression, they’re just buying time. After all, they’re always been interested in short term profit. At this point they’re just reproducing the system until we die by extinction

Alternatively “The asteroid is coming, but we have still time to take measures against it” “Oh my, its faster than expected, we’ll move swiftly!” They, in fact, did move swiftly their houses in remote islands. On top of mountains or other natural shelters