NATLFED comes to mind when you say that, nothing to do with NZ, but the weird convoluted structure so no-one knows who is responsible for what

Not sure you were asking advice, so I won’t push any on you. Agree it sucks tho

I’ve been idly browsing local Facebook listings for second hand gear and the same shit sits there for months priced about what I paid for similar stuff years ago - sometimes higher

No, car windows once, bathroom mirror a few times. Didn’t seem like it was worth it for that.

We’ve loved our window vac, WV2 I think, for sucking condensation off the windows. Way less mess and faster job overall than squeegee plus towel and even sucks it up off the sill. Maybe not a smart buy for how expensive it is, but over however many years of mopping up windows… worth

Just jumped in to liftoff and it’s great so far

Being sensible to own the conservatives