You do understand how your example is different though, right?

By “end-of-life” home I’m assuming you mean hospice, which is absolutely not the same as medical assistance in dying (MAiD). I don’t know the story, however, hospices exist in many countries. Hospices do not provide “very basic [medical] care” - they are there to manage pain, manage symptoms to an extent, and provide a comfortable space for that person to die. If the family did not agree that their family member should have been in hospice they needed to seek a second opinion. Hospices are not there to cure someone’s medical condition. If you go into one it is because you are imminently dying.

The mistake of the medical staff in putting this person in hospice is not the same as someone who is of sound mind, learns that they have a terminal disease, and chooses for themselves to go through the medical assistance in dying process.

MAiD is a process with multiple checks and balances with multiple levels of oversight. You are able to opt out at any time prior to the final event.

Have you ever had to watch a family member decline though? What about a pet? How did you treat that pet? Did you prolong their suffering and watch them slowly die unable to eat or drink or did you do something about it so they did not have to suffer? Why are humans different if they themselves, sound of mind, choose to end their own suffering?

An acquaintance of mine’s relative chose to go this way due to ALS. It was their choice and the last year was hell on the family, even though the relative had selected assisted dying.

Before modern medicine, how exactly do you think they handled grandma who was losing her marbles and lived in a one room farmhouse with the rest of the family? Especially if they’re violent and nasty. Is it right to withhold care/food/water and let nature take its course? Is that murder? Was there murder or suicide? Lots of this stuff has happened throughout history within the privacy of a family. People were likely more “religious” back then but we didn’t have the regulations or medical oversight to document things as such. Likely they just told people that their relative died of natural causes, buried them on the family plot and were done with it.

It is hell to witness the pain and confusion someone you love has when they have a degenerative disease and the Herculean effort it takes to care for someone in a condition like this. A family simply cannot do this alone without paying an exorbitant amount of money for medical and support staff - around the clock.

It’s like anything else in history:

• Ban abortion and abortion still happens, but without any shred of dignity, humanity or compassion.
• Ban drugs and guess what, they still exist on a dangerous black market.
• People still kill themselves without the help of medical assistance in dying. This just provides a path to dignity and closure for the person and their family for those who choose it. And I’m sure if you’re intent on ending your life, you don’t give a fuck about the stigma.

Wouldn’t it be a good thing to “de-stigmatize” suicide? So people can talk about it and we have more of a chance to intervene with people who do not have a lethal disease?

Everyone I have encountered who brings up “suicide is never an option” in relation to issues like this has never had to witness it. I’m 100% going out this way if I ever have a lethal disease.

Oh yeah it won’t happen all at once though. He’s going to test it bit by bit to make everyone else flinch. Then probably try to install a series of rules that effectively neuter it.

It’s the way Russia does it - the institution still “stands” but is beaten into ineffectual submission by a series of a thousand cuts. He’s got Turkey, Hungary and possibly Romania and Italy to back him up in this regard.

I’d add: he’ll probably threaten to pull out of NATO if the rest of the countries continue arming/aiding Ukraine.

It’s certainly one perspective but I don’t think it’s the only possibility.

It’s been a long time for testing and no one seems in the loop. Why lie about it.

Also the military has testing sites - why over populated civilian areas? Why not say they’re running a military exercise and loop in law enforcement at the very least?

Why also the sightings of similar “drones” in the UK?

Why do they “go dark” when chased?

If it was US military why did they prevent a medical helicopter from taking off? That seems highly unnecessary and cruel.

It’s super interesting that there are reports that a bunch of drones were following a coast guard ship.

Interestingly civilian drones get disabled around these NJ ones. Apparently they can’t fly and have issues.

That doesn’t seem like it’s enough money to pay an enormous hospital bill.

Bribe it’s called a bribe.

They took money from Saudi Arabia post bankruptcy if I recall correctly.

This is serving so much Saudi Arabia energy.

I think it’s god’s will when men aren’t able to get erections. It’s not natural to use viagara or cialis. Surely the same people so in tune with god’s will would agree with that one, right?

They’re making it harder and harder to do so apparently and to download the books that you buy from their store.

I don’t trust that they won’t make a strong push to lock you into the Amazon ecosystem.

And, bluntly, I don’t trust Bezos, especially after all of this election bullshit he pulled with WaPo where he personally got involved. The chances are now non-zero that Kindle could censor books. If a tyrannical regime told Bezos to remove a list of books from Kindle devices I think he’d roll over and do it. And that’s not right. They’re the customer’s books - they bought them and they get to decide what they read without censorship. And to be clear, I don’t care which way the censorship goes. We shouldn’t be censoring books - full stop.

I used to be such a kindle Stan but I don’t think they will let me have full control over an expensive device that I buy and books that I buy on their platform.

I de-drm every book I buy and side load it onto my devices because no company in the future should be able to tell me what books I can read. I’m currently using a Kobo but if they start fucking around too (no signs of this yet…) I’ll find a device that will respect my freedom.

If you want to sideload your own books and continue to be able to do so, steer clear of any Amazon device.

And if they succeed in cementing the Christian theocracy they can control them through religion. They only want freedom for themselves to subjugate everyone else.

Not trying to fight you but I think people should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Abortion isn’t a culture war it’s literally my life at risk as a woman.

The campaign was just not explicit enough and America is ill educated by design on the topic of reproduction.

And I’ve come to the realization that most people don’t want to grapple with horrific things until it happens to them and it’s too late. See the pandemic - all the people who were boasting on fb about not protecting themselves and not getting the vaccine until their families were posting about those same people being dead.

Dropping this here - no woman wants to tell that story.

Well and like… all women were just confirmed to be second class citizens.

If we accept the premise that God doesn’t condone abortion care even in instances where women miscarry or the baby dies then surely dick pills aren’t natural either.

It seems to be that the popular vote in America is saying that women are whores who can die and everything men do gets a pass including sexual assault and cheating on their wives.

Timothy Snyder - On Tyrrany

For my friends in America who did not want this or deserve this.

The ones who supported this can reap the karma that they gave sewn.

Bracing for impact in Canada.

Americans don’t realize we have our own lil JD primed and ready to take over here as well, funded and helped by Republican strategists and think tanks oh boy.

You know what mega corporations say: “If I owe the government $1M that’s my problem. If I owe the government $20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, that’s their problem.”