What is utility?

Must it be measurable and quantifiable?

And even if it needn’t, can it exist otherwise in an economic system that requires quantified value in all things?

Oh, I figured they counted as a huge loss of civil liberties.

US gained the rights to legally murder its own citizens without due process under Obama.

Also loads of giving corporations and capital rights, and rolling back protective anti-investment gambling under Democrat administrations, which ate up the rights of non-capital.

He had one, but he fired her and looks to be too stubborn and sure of his own competence to hire another one (or maybe too proud to admit that she was right and useful after firing her for petty reasons).

Mainland PRC has no entries after 2016 for the UN site.

The London Prison studies one has an estimate for 2018, and says based off of UN data.

On 百度 I get mixed figures, from 3900 and another states At least 700 a year, but I also think it’s talking more globally.

Doesn’t seem to be public government statistics, like the UK or EU gov data sites, which would be nice to check things out and show to the rabid anti-China folks.

That’s the UN data for Hong Kong, but it was easy enough to find the page for the PRC, excluding Hong Kong and Macao. The figures still line up well enough (noting, as the other page does that it exclude statistics about people interred in the “vocational training schools”), although the UN doesn’t have figures post 2016.

UN page doesn’t seem to have execution rates either, which would also impact incarceration rates.

Not to say that the US isn’t atrocious and also terrible on all those metrics, and plumbing new lows with each successive presidency. I was just kinda hoping for some more official PRC reported figures.

I’ve been looking for Chinese prison-crime-etc. data. Do you have a link?

It being in Mandarin isn’t a problem.

Make it a question with a third ma.

So “ma ma ma?” (妈麻吗?)

Aye, any Israeli who isn’t actively opposing the settlements in the West Bank is unambiguously in the wrong. And I wish that wasn’t a controversial statement.

You’re right in that Rabin’s assassination wasn’t the change in itself (that such Israeli extremists had continued to exist shows that that violent current in Israel had continued and been bubbling away), but it makes a good mark of a turning point and the loss of really any chance for reconciliation in at least our lifetimes.

The Nakba was a tragedy, and Ben has his role in that along with all the other high ups in the various paramilitary forces. The IDF didn’t exist then, though it does trace its routes back to those paramilitary groups.

That Ben G worked to limit their power once the nation was formed is a mark against him being a fascist to me, and he didn’t go as hard on violent struggle as the meaning of life as full fasc-fascism does.

Violent, racist, and did bad things yes (and genocidal to boot!). I don’t think that auto-makes fascist.

As for what was being done pre-Six Day War I’m going to guess pogroms, murders, and forced sterilisation. So I’ll go back up and add genocidal to it. Doesn’t make him fascist though, unless we’re making it a synonym for genocidist.

Shockingly, nations aren’t monoliths.

Football was the name the players used.

Soccer was the name used by people looking down on them and legislating against them.

Give Israel some credit, Ben Gurion wasn’t a fascist, despite his problems - but also you could understand where he was coming from.

It’s really from the 70s on when Israel moved from problematic and apatheidy into the full on genocidal regime we see today.

The watershed moment, not surprisingly, being the assassination of Rabin.

Which particular set of Israeli policies are you supporting here?

The 10-15 civilian deaths per strike on a possible low level Hamas supporter?

The continued “accidental” killing of medical staff, including Red Cross and Red Crescent workers, and journalists?

The idea of turning off water and electricity from all of Gaza as a valid response?

The escalation of illegal settlement and theft of Palestinian property and land in the West Bank, with IDF support no less?

Or the use of the Hannibal Protocol against Israeli Civilians on October 8th by IDF forces?

Or do you just not think it is incumbent on the one with greater power and strength to offer the olive branch first if peace is truly desires? And in fact would rather the Palestinian people are smeared across an enlarged Israel?

No one said that AI was doing the jobs it’s replaced people in well.

I didn’t like the first series, and would’ve quit it at episode 3 or so but I ended up without internet access for a couple of days and the whole series downloaded… It got better.

But yeah, life’s too short for TV shows that take time to be taken on faith. And if you did finish the first series and still not like it, more power to you.

Worse, the IDF was under orders to expand the Hannibal Protocol to civilians the whole time, too.

Hannibal Protocol is the order to kill Israelis rather than allow them to become hostages.

But fish mint is delicious.

Wash the roots and snap them into little bits, toss them up with some diced onion and chili oil.

The leaves go great in salad.

The best solution for the people of the PRC and the State of Taiwan (RoC), and to undercut US imperial goals in the Asian Pacific is for the PRC to recognise an indepent Taiwan, in return for not being excluded from semi conductors and having free passage through territorial waters (and throw in recognition of PRC claims in South China Sea if you like).

Without the threat of invasion and a normalisation of ties both will help both economically and socially, and the shared cultural links will pull them together over time; and it ties the US’s hands in meddling.

What does this even mean? I’ve been stumped for the whole day… You’ve brained wormed me with this indescipherable string of words.

Didn’t he only treat one of each set of twins, and used a faulty method that has been supplanted?

In addition to all the lying and manipulating the parents to get them to agree and not ask many questions.