Perhaps there was some confusion or miscommunication here. I’m not asking to convert him to my religion, make him “more liberal”, get him to be a mini-me, make my work life “easier” by making him more “standable” or anything like that. I am personally able to work just fine with the kid as it is, and have no professional issues with them.

I do not feel I have any sort of agenda I’m pushing, I just see them exhibiting misogynistic behaviors and drifting towards a subgroup that’s known for mass shootings, and I think I can in any way help prevent him from going that route.

Ooh! That looks doable!

Is there a service that is only email? Most of the offerings in those packages are either too much bloat of applications that are unnecessary, and/or are too expensive for what they actually would provide that we would use.

I’d much rather keep using the tools that we’re used to and have set up than move to a different ecosystem, especially one that tracks a lot of the data we use with it

Haha, I’m no saint, I’d like him to be better than that!

But more seriously, I agree I’m not responsible for others’ routes in life, I said so at the end of my post. However, there are certain behaviors that society in general tends to disapprove of, and incel behavior is one of them. If I can help him move away from that path with my actions, I’d say that’s worth doing. No?

I’m not terribly worried about a service seeing my traffic, the initial concept was for a self-hosted server to run a business email and site and some tools on, but I can’t do email through my ISP without paying an arm and a leg, and my business doesn’t make enough for that…

Thanks! I’ll look into that

Huh, that’s an interesting route to take. I worry it’ll become too similar to the trap of “pink isn’t a girl’s color, it’s actually a boy’s color and they switched in the XX’th century and it’s the color of blood so it’s manly” that I’ve seen a lot of people fall into (kicking myself because I was one of them). It’s not a bad step to be in, in that it helps normalize normally “feminine” actions/dress/etc. as things men can wear, but it’s also just… still gendered unnecessarily?

To be clear, I haven’t watched it yet and still intend to, I just worry about that from your description of it.

The disappointment approach is my jam! It’s what helped me turn things around, and it’s what has worked so far with this kid. I’m just calling it out here because this was way better worded than mine, and needs the ups so if anybody else is looking for ideas they know this one is great!

I definitely do some level of this but I can step it up for sure. I’m the only guy in my position and while I have about five years of experience on any of them I respect them all and give them the same deference they do me, we’re one big team and all in the same position, nobody’s anybody’s boss in any way.

I don’t talk about my wife enough though, I could do that and hopefully at the same time counter the “boomer humor” comic sorts of jokes