• Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    Is that the engineers fault? Or is that the people who are supposed to check for usability after the engineer is done designing the functional aspects? Because it’s not usually an engineer’s job to do this…

    Basic product testing is the foundation of manufacturing, an error like this doesn’t get all the way through production and it still be just the engineers fault.

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      Yes it is the engineers fault, but even then there should have been multiple people that should have caught such an issue along the way.

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        As an engineer, I agree.

        You cannot be a layer of security if your attitude is, “this is someone else’s problem”.

        The swiss cheese model of security is what I go by. Yes, no one is perfect, but that’s precisely why every single person needs to actually give a damn. (and why people should be paid enough to care) The more layers of protection from catastrophe, the better.

        Giving in because others are involved is literally Bystander Effect-ing your job effectiveness. Only idiots should be OK with, “this is someone else’s fault.”

        No, this is also other peoples’ fault, but make no mistake: the engineer is on that list.

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      They probably reused a PCB from another model that used a paperclip hole reset. They duplicated the design, sent it for testing, and came back with “everything is great, but make the reset a push button before you ship it.” Engineering probably said “ok. But it will need to go back for usability testing” and sales said “fuck that, send it”

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        Or another possibility, after proto and lots of testing: “we need to move test button a couple of cm to the right, away from the corner. No further tests needed”

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      It’s very strange engineer, if he doesn’t aware of RJ45 connector form-factors.

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        Hey I’m not absolving the engineer for not doing basic interference checks but I’m saying it’s also somebody else’s job I’m sure, Cisco’s not a small company.

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        This is one of those double edged sword things with Lemmy, since there’s so many places a community can be, they all end up being a little smaller. There’s got to be a better solution for that. Maybe when creating a community there should be a way to automatically search a large portion of committed all at once and display it to the user.

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    did they change careers after that? I would want to work on a farm and touch grass every day with my new friends, the animals.

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    This reminds me of Macintosh computers from the late '80s/early '90s. The disk drive had no physical eject button and the power button for the computer was a big knob sticking out right below the disk drive. Coming from the PC world, it took me a couple of days to learn to stop turning off the computer every time I tried to eject the disk.

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    Cisco and Juniper need to die as entities like 5 years ago. They’re single-handedly holding back all of networking from entering the modern era of computing.

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      You must not work in enterprise IT. Every lower level network engineer says this until they gain more skills and experience with them. Then they realize the full extent of features Cisco and Juniper support that others don’t

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        Surprising opinion, I was only a junior in my brief stint at networking but all my seniors shared this opinion.