• Doom@ttrpg.network
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    1 year ago

    Lol I love the tankies

    they ignore the attempted coup, the fact russian soldiers have shown their equipment to be shit with wooden blocks instead of explosives or cosplay helmets and body armor. disregard the fact Russia is forcing people to fight and moral is held by Russian soldiers being unable to retreat for fear of death.

    y’all dumb as bricks. wheres the one guy who posts that weird site “proving” tiananmen square was some western op but when you check the sources he provides they say the exact opposite.

    lmfao

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      1 year ago

      99% of the people who participated in the 1989 anti-corruptipn protests are fine. They went after the figureheads who tried to skew the protests into being pro-democracy (coincidentally, most of these people ended up in the US and were offered asylum). Casualties primarily occurred in standoffs surrounding the square - police were strung up, molotovs were thrown, windows were smashed, national guard opened fire, and the (rather inadequately trained) riot police got handed equipment and told to deal with it.

      It was widely seen at the time that Deng Xiaoping’s policies for economic liberalization were harming the average person by allowing some regions and some people to get rich before others. What that meant in practice was that local government officials would grift the crap out of things… So the protests happened, Deng Xiaoping was forced to step down, and the pace of economic liberalization was slowed. The point of the movement was not for change of government or democratization - that skew happened incredibly late in the process, but most notably the protests did lead to substantiative change in China’s government, policy direction, and led to the most senior officials stepping down.

      The protests… Worked. Just like the white paper protests worked in ending COVID-19 restrictions. Just like hundreds of protests every year help bring attention to local government officials’ corruption. The protests led to substantiative change in policy, had repercussions on the relevant government officials, and, fundamentally, did exactly what a protest is designed to do.